*Official* England in NZ 2023

[nzfan]

England 50: Draw (rain affected) 35: NZ 15
and that is generous to NZ

Come on mate... we're not that bad.

 

[ataraxia]

Like it'll be a draw, even if half the test is rained off.

 

[nzfan]

I reckon wait a few months mate, if they can win the Ashes then I'm more than happy to say they're top 2.

And wowee, if you want to open a bookies, I reckon more than a few people will take your odds. If it doesn't rain, I reckon they win 8-9 out of 10 and we might sneak one or two. I'm not sure how though, given they are better than us everywhere from 1-11 apart from WK.

I think we have better experience and like I said Basin is our fort. It's bouncy, will seam all over the place and even a not so good seam bowler will be like McGrath on this deck for the first couple of days. If we can bowl first England may score 200 in one session and get bowled out

 

[Brook's side]

toss much of a factor here?

 

[nzfan]

toss much of a factor here?

Every time... win toss bowl first, bowl opponent cheaply. The pitch gets really good to bat on day 3 and onwards. Always spongy bounce, doesn't come on to the bat. Like I said average medium pacers look like Malcolm Marshall on day 1 and 2

 

[Binkley]

The toss is a factor. A typical Basin wicket can start with plenty of seam, but flattens out pretty fast. The cold and strong wind will make bowling tough though.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

toss much of a factor here?

100%

Bowl first and roll them when it is green. Score 600 when it becames a road

 

[Fuller Pilch]

The toss is a factor. A typical Basin wicket can start with plenty of seam, but flattens out pretty fast. The cold and strong wind will make bowling tough though.

Need someone to bowl into the wind. I would've liked Shipley

 

[Bahnz]

toss much of a factor here?

Yup. NZ haven’t played many tests here against top sides in the past decade, but on the occasions they have:

India won the toss in 2014 bowled first, racked up a 250 run first innings lead, and NZ were only bailed out by Baz’s second innings 300
Aus won the toss in 2015 bowled first, gained a 300ish first innings lead and won at a canter
SA won the toss in 2017, bowled first, gained a 100ish first innings lead and won by about 8 wickets.
NZ won the toss v India in 2020, bowled first, gained a 200 run first innings lead and won by 10 wickets.

 

[nzfan]

Need someone to bowl into the wind. I would've liked Shipley

It's southerlies today not very gusty. Wind is not going to be a factor this time around

 

[ataraxia]

Just the 4 bowlers – works IMO if Mitchell gets a good meme seam of a bowl.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Wow, they've dropped Tickner! Actually got batters out with decent balls in MM and showed courage with the bat and in adversity re Hawkes Bay.
Mitchell as 4th seamer (although should bowl 3rd before Wagner) and playing 6 bats plus Blundell. Bracewell at 8.

Would've definitely preferred Tickner for Bracewell in that case, or kept Sodhi in the squad and played him at 8.

 

[Prince EWS]

Apologise to Conway immediately.

You have 15 more minutes.

 

[Prince EWS]

Macewell playing as a specialist bowler against England on a pitch very unlikely to suit him.

I feel like I've seen this movie before.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Anyway, I'm pleased for Will Young

 

[straw man]

Dropped Kuggeleijn
Young selected
Macewell 4th bowler

 

[straw man]

There is something a little disturbing about those emoji animations

 

[Athlai]

YEaaaaaaaah everythings coming up Athlai

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Nicholls is still there lmao

 

[Brook's side]

I liked Tickner. Think that's harsh tbh.