GoodAreasShane
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Kelly in, no Buckingham as it turns out
WA bowling, pitch may look greenish but it hasn't appeared to do anything too drastic as of yet
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Australian Domestic Season 2022-23
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WA bowling, pitch may look greenish but it hasn't appeared to do anything too drastic as of yet
GoodAreasShane
Cricketer Of The Year
I think that would be wayyyyyyyyyyyy premature myself
Think he's going to do a bit of a Cam Green in the SS very soon, possibly in the back half of this season, reel off a few 100's and be that u/22 prospect averaging ~50 with 4/5 FC tons.
They generally get fast tracked.
He'd already be on his way if the South African tour game had FC status. After todays knock, he'd be averaging mid 60's with those two on his FC record.
I see alot of Mike Hussey/Shaun Marsh in his batting, especially his shot making through cover. He's also developing as a specialist middle order bat, which is exactly what Australia will be chasing in 12-18 months imo.
Think he's immediate future may depend on Travis Heads batting position in the test side.
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GoodAreasShane
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This is entirely the wrong mindset to have imo, strongly believe that young players (especially specialist bats) need to have a greater body of work behind them in terms of FC experience to even be remotely considered for international duty
I reject the Greg Chappell "get them in young no matter what" ideology in the strongest possible terms
It's not my mindset, I'm saying it's the mindset of CA.
See Pucovski, See Green, See Cummins, See Murphy.
Every now and then there's a player that looks immediately test class and I think Kellaway will prove to be one in the next 12-18 months.
GoodAreasShane
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I don't disagree whatsoever with your statement that there are many within CA who think that way, that doesn't mean it still isn't absolutely stupid.
As for the examples, Pucovski the only one that is really comparable and it can't possibly be argued that picking him worked out at all, Green is different as an allrounder, he has not really made an unarguable case for his place in the Test team on batting alone, but he very much has once you factor in his bowling. Murphy is a specialist bowler of course and so far so good there but it is too early to say that is a definite success
Test cricket 100% should be about picking your best team at that point in time, not selecting those on the basis that they might be great one day
We don't know that.
His issues are completely unrelated to his selection.
He absolutely looked the part on debut.
In terms of your last point though, Green absolutely earned his test place. He was one of the top Sheffield Shield run scorers over 2 seasons.
Are you going to far the other way to an extent?
Handscombe, Bancroft, Harris, Renshaw all have very very similar FC statistical records. All 18-22 FC tons, all average 36-39 in FC cricket.
All probably not top level test cricketers in the long run.
There's some method in the madness when a young player comes along averaging ~50, as they may clearly be that gulf in class better. Green certainly was over those two SS seasons.
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GoodAreasShane
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Yes Pucovski did certainly have preexisting issues before his international selection. The way I see it that should have precluded him from selection entirely on the basis of being unable to string together consistent Shield games in the first place.
As for Green, to say he was a leading runscorer over 2 seasons before his Test selection is a little inaccurate, his real good run with the willow really started with 87 in a Shield game at the Gabba (during which he also picked up a back injury which ruled him out of bowling for that season) in Nov 2019, by the time he was first picked for Tests it was Dec 2020, considering Covid he only played about a bit under a seasons worth of Shield games in that time. Need to put up those sort of numbers for a longer time for this "gulf in class" chat to hold any weight
That being said, I did agree with Green being selected when he was. But that was on the basis of being an allrounder, wouldn't be picking any specialist bat on that small of a sample size
GoodAreasShane
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Drew is really playing very well here, excellent to see
Nintendo
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What's the go with daniel drew? He's 26 and hasn't played much cricket but has done pretty well for himself so far in the shield. 2 hundreds in the past season, averaged 63 at the back end of last season and averaging 45 this season, making his runs in the top 3/4 aswell.
Nintendo
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Just getting around to the highlights of the days play, really impressed by drew's game vs spin. The way he came down and used his feet to rocconcholli to hit the ball for four while watching it the whole time, then went on the backfoot and punched it for four next ball was really classy. Seems really certain about whether he wants to be forward or back to spin from the highlights, which is always a great sign.
GoodAreasShane
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It's taken me by surprise as well if I'm honest. Drew was always pretty highly rated in Grade cricket, perhaps not the most consistent in his younger days but really seems to have taken his game to another level in the last 18 months or so. Probably made a couple of techincal adjustments, but part of it likely is down to work ethic, he trains as hard and works on his game as much as pretty much anyone to be around the SACA setup in the last decade or so. Used to bowl some offies too but that isn't even really seen at Grade level anymore.
Good (and rare) to see a 100% homegrown grade guy kick on and improve rather then get lost in the system as has tended to happen to too many talents here. Long may that continue
GoodAreasShane
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Certainly was. As Nintendo said the way he dealt with Rocchiccioli was especially impressive, but was good against the quicks as well, largely watchful against Kelly and Stobo who both bowled well, more aggressive against the other seamers who all offered a fair degree of looser stuff
GoodAreasShane
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Also, a wholehearted congratulations to TTGDCC legend Matt Weaver for his 200th first grade game against Glenelg today
GoodAreasShane
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Commentators seem to be suggesting half the WA team are still hungover in the BBL
Not the most absurd theory ever advanced over Shield comms tbf