Coronis
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Yeah I know, fsr I had it in my brain that the match was scheduled in July rather than June.
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Kohli’s India vs Imran’s Pakistan
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centurymaker
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That was a disgrace indeed. How on earth they allowed one team to play a series there... it was no longer a so-called 'neutral' final, also considering how they prepared a green top, which India batted 1st on. Everything was stacked in favor of one team by ECB, as a payback for robbing them of 2019 ODI WC title.
centurymaker
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It just shouldn't be allowed. What's the point of having a neutral final in the first place if teams started doing that?
Daemon
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Nah, you can prepare however you want. Both sides had the opportunity to do so with ample notice.
It’s the richest board in the world against a team who makes losses on tests ffs.
What sucks is it’s always in England where no Asian side will have an advantage should they make it there.
centurymaker
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It should never be in one location. Thats what further detracts from it. Already the matches and series are quite imbalanced. Big 3 are playing way more matches against quality opponents, while the rest are playing more matches vs the rest. Moreover, 1-2 teams get given an easy route to the final everytime. It's hardly a fair tournament tbh.
All teams should be playing each other in a 4 year window. Playing 6 teams out of 8 is not good enough. For example, South Africa is not playing Australia and England next time.
Even 7 out of 8 would be a lot better, if they can't play all.
Each series should be worth the same. At the moment, points are being given based on matches, which is so wrong imo. So WTC right now is worse than the other ICC WCs.
centurymaker
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And there was no ample notice, teams only qualified in the final few months.
Shoud all teams anticipate (well in advance) that theyre going to make the final and arrange a test series in Eng for early June? It's just not possible dude.
And arranging a series last minute is difficult as well. NZ were fortunate that they were able to do it.
COVID also played a huge role last time as teams had to miss some series and thus were quite negatively impacted. All in all, WTC has been a mess so far. If they can't fix it, they should scrap it or have it over 4 years rather 2 years. At least the results will be more fair over a 4 year window.
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Daemon
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Can’t imagine it’d be too difficult to organise a quick game with Ireland
Just do the groundwork in anticipation and scrap if you don’t make the finals (or go ahead regardless even)
These guys moved an entire IPL overseas at the last minute but this is too difficult? Give me a break.
At bare minimum send the players over earlier and play more tour games.
Just do the groundwork in anticipation and scrap if you don’t make the finals (or go ahead regardless even)
These guys moved an entire IPL overseas at the last minute but this is too difficult? Give me a break.
At bare minimum send the players over earlier and play more tour games.
honestbharani
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@centurymaker most of your criticism is valid but I am with @Daemon here. BCCI still had the chance to ensure we got the same advantage NZ did and decided to do nothing.
subshakerz
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Agreed I always wondered why the management didn't take the final and it's prep more seriously.
honestbharani
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How is it a fault of their own making in that case though? You think BCCI should have arm twisted ICC to have it held in Dubai?
Are people suddenly forgetting here what just preceded the finals? How the heck was BCCI going to do anything about WTC when it was peak Covid in India, FFS the IPL had to be cancelled/postponed midway. In fact had the pandemic not been brought slightly under control (in India) there wouldn't have been a final in the first place!
The WTC was a farce anyway because the conditions heavily favored one side, not just their prep but also that they didn't even play a spinner! Neutral venue my **** ?
Yeah no looks like you have no idea what you're talking about
The WTC was a farce anyway because the conditions heavily favored one side, not just their prep but also that they didn't even play a spinner! Neutral venue my **** ?
Daemon
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Our fault because we kinda suck at playing in those conditions.
Daemon
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Why did you change emojis midway through your post?Are people suddenly forgetting here what just preceded the finals? How the heck was BCCI going to do anything about WTC when it was peak Covid in India, FFS the IPL had to be cancelled/postponed midway. In fact had the pandemic not been brought slightly under control (in India) there wouldn't have been a final in the first place!
Yeah no looks like you have no idea what you're talking about
The WTC was a farce anyway because the conditions heavily favored one side, not just their prep but also that they didn't even play a spinner! Neutral venue my **** ?
honestbharani
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Nah... that then implies other teams dont. Its not fair at all.
Fuller Pilch
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India overperformed in the WTC final. They managed to take NZ to the 6th day.
Fuller Pilch
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Is it going to always be in England? It should be moved around.
Daemon
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Good point about the IPL being postponed actually (though not one in your favour).Are people suddenly forgetting here what just preceded the finals? How the heck was BCCI going to do anything about WTC when it was peak Covid in India, FFS the IPL had to be cancelled/postponed midway. In fact had the pandemic not been brought slightly under control (in India) there wouldn't have been a final in the first place!
Yeah no looks like you have no idea what you're talking about
The WTC was a farce anyway because the conditions heavily favored one side, not just their prep but also that they didn't even play a spinner! Neutral venue my **** ?
IPL was originally scheduled to end around the first week of June, just 10 days or so before the WTC final. Perfect preparation and totally enough time to acclimatise for the final.
The fact that it was postponed was a blessing as it allowed the team a bit more time to rest and prepare.
Fuller Pilch
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Not at all. Ajaz hardly plays and Santner wasn't in the final 15 man squad.
That's because NZ pitches have progressively become worse for spinners in the last 10-15 years! Among major test nations their reversal is probably the most striking.
Nope, the Covid cases started surging sometime around March & that went on for about 2-4 months. This led to strained resources throughout the country & in fact one of the major sticking point at the time was players getting multiple jabs in the IPL whilst the general public had to wait & many died as a result. Ashwin withdrew due to his family(immediate?) members getting infected & that had a domino effect throughout the tournament.
If the cases had not gone down around May/June it's possible some of the team members would not play the WTC final & not to mention there was a quarantine requirement(?) in UK at the time. Things had to stabilize in India first, otherwise WTC final would've been postponed. No way BCCI could justify this with the backlash they already faced for IPL & rightly so!