England players and selection discussion thread

[Prince EWS]

Maybe it was Stokes listening to Jeetan Patel, the spin bowling coach.

@Athlai

 

[Athlai]

Wag

 

[wpdavid]

England's squad for the NZ tests has been announced.

Ben Stokes (Durham, capt), James Anderson (Lancashire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Harry Brook (Yorkshire), Zak Crawley (Kent), Ben Duckett (Nottinghamshire), Ben Foakes (Surrey), Will Jacks (Surrey), Dan Lawrence (Essex), Jack Leach (Somerset), Ollie Pope (Surrey), Matthew Potts (Durham), Ollie Robinson (Sussex), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Olly Stone (Nottinghamshire)

 

[Prince EWS]

England's squad for the NZ tests has been announced.

Ben Stokes (Durham, capt), James Anderson (Lancashire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Harry Brook (Yorkshire), Zak Crawley (Kent), Ben Duckett (Nottinghamshire), Ben Foakes (Surrey), Will Jacks (Surrey), Dan Lawrence (Essex), Jack Leach (Somerset), Ollie Pope (Surrey), Matthew Potts (Durham), Ollie Robinson (Sussex), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Olly Stone (Nottinghamshire)

@Chubb and @honestbharani will be happy to see Dan Lawrence back.

I'm surprised Woakes isn't there. They seem to have finally given up on the idea of him as an away Test bowler. That's definitely fair enough given his awful away record but I'd probably still back him ahead of Potts tbh. I wonder if he's still in the reckoning for the Ashes.

 

[GIMH]

I can only see him playing if they decide Anderson needs a rest. Stokes/McCullum seem less keen on rotation

 

[Howe_zat]

Woakes' record in NZ is crap, but so is everyone's apart from the two big guns.

England bowling in NZ for the current gen:



Will be pleased for Leach if he manages to play both tests this time on his third attempt. I fear them dropping him for Will Jacks.

 

[grecian]

Interesting for the fast bowler they've gone Stone, feel a bit for Jove, and actually Cove could probably consider his england career over.

Look Pews you may hate Potts but he did okay, would be really unlucky to be ditched after that.

 

[Howe_zat]

I thought Potts was quite likely to TRJ's career, that is one very good summer and then forgotten forever

 

[Prince EWS]

I can only see him playing if they decide Anderson needs a rest. Stokes/McCullum seem less keen on rotation

Yeah I more meant for the broader squad than actually in the best eleven. He's not in this squad but may possibly be in a home one?

 

[grecian]

I thought Potts was quite likely to TRJ's career, that is one very good summer and then forgotten forever

That was through injury though, Potts is fit and without looking I'd say about 5 years younger than when TRJ debutted, mind you I would have picked TRJ over Potts at the start of last Summer, so what do I know.

 

[ImpatientLime]

whats the reasoning for wood being left out?

 

[flibbertyjibber]

whats the reasoning for wood being left out?

To recover and be fit for ashes.

Makes sense given his injury record

 

[ImpatientLime]

To recover and be fit for ashes.

Makes sense given his injury record

hmmmm ok. i mean he is an outlier in that he is considerably more effective away from home for england and new zealand pitches on recent england tours have been fairly flat so his 'take the pitch out of the equation' style would probably be more beneficial here than at home v australia.

 

[theegyptian]

the whole tour is kinda pointless. a 2 test tour that isn't even part of the World test championship.

 

[wpdavid]

Elsewhere, Sam Curran has become the more expensive signing ever for the IPL.

 

[honestbharani]

England's squad for the NZ tests has been announced.

Ben Stokes (Durham, capt), James Anderson (Lancashire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Harry Brook (Yorkshire), Zak Crawley (Kent), Ben Duckett (Nottinghamshire), Ben Foakes (Surrey), Will Jacks (Surrey), Dan Lawrence (Essex), Jack Leach (Somerset), Ollie Pope (Surrey), Matthew Potts (Durham), Ollie Robinson (Sussex), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Olly Stone (Nottinghamshire)

Who is out from the squad that went to Pak?

 

[Howe_zat]

Who is out from the squad that went to Pak?

Jennings, Wood, Ahmed and J.Overton.

So, an Asian track specialist, an 18 year old, a perenially injured quick they're being careful with and Jamie Overton. So of those Overton is probably the one hard done to as Grecian says. But he's not exactly got a wealth of supporters clamouring for him to be in the side either.

 

[honestbharani]

Jennings, Wood, Ahmed and J.Overton.

So, an Asian track specialist, an 18 year old, a perenially injured quick they're being careful with and Jamie Overton. So of those Overton is probably the one hard done to as Grecian says. But he's not exactly got a wealth of supporters clamouring for him to be in the side either.

Yeah... pretty fair selections overall then. Lawrence for Jennings, Stone for Wood, Potts and Broad for Ahmed and Joverton seems pretty logical.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Both Overtons are absolute garbage imo

 

[ataraxia]

Jacks? Really?