How many fast bowlers are better than Warne/Murali ?

[Sunil1z]

I have observed that whenever someone picks ATXI they pick 3 pace bowlers and 1 of Warne/Murali. This means that they consider the 3rd pacer to be better than either of Warne/Murali otherwise why not pick both ?
So how many fast bowlers do you consider to be better than atleast one of Warne/Murali ?

 

[ankitj]

I have started picking both in AT XI at the expense of Barnes. I also pick 3 pace bowlers in addition.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

There’s a former member who reckoned Ian Bishop had a better career than Warne, so that’s the benchmark.

 

[Sunil1z]

I have started picking both in AT XI at the expense of Barnes. I also pick 3 pace bowlers in addition.

Your all rounder is Imran (3rd pacer)?

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Years ago when picking All Time XI's (not a regular pastime I must admit) I used to pick the best two openers, the best three middle order batsman, the best allrounder, the best keeper, best two pacers and best two spinners with no thought of team balance.

Gavaskar
Hobbs
Bradman
Richards
Tendulkar
Sobers
Knott
Marshall
Warne
Lillee
Murali

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Barnes >
Akram, Hadlee, Marshall > Murali
> Lillee, Steyn, Mcgrath > Warne

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

O’Reilly
Syd Barnes
Hadlee
Marshall
McGrath
The top 5 in order better than both.And then Murali.

And ahead of Warne I would have-
Ambrose
Steyn
Lindwall
Trueman
Imran
Lillee
Akram

So,11 bowlers and 10 quicks.

 

[Sunil1z]

My order is

Jadeja
Kallis

Marshall/McGrath
Barnes
Ambrose
Steyn
Murali
Hadlee
Imran
Warne

 

[Migara]

Marshall
McGrath

(end of list)

Ambrose, Imran and Steyn are comparable to Murali.

 

[Slifer]

Marshall
McGrath

(end of list)

Ambrose, Imran and Steyn are comparable to Murali.

I'd say Hadlee as well is up there with Marshall and Glenn. But your list seems fair.

 

[_00_deathscar]

I have observed that whenever someone picks ATXI they pick 3 pace bowlers and 1 of Warne/Murali. This means that they consider the 3rd pacer to be better than either of Warne/Murali otherwise why not pick both ?
So how many fast bowlers do you consider to be better than atleast one of Warne/Murali ?

Isn't it more that they're more likely to win you a game than Warne/Murali in any given conditions, spinny pitches excepted?

I mean its not like the teams picked are choosing Zaheer Khan as third seamer.

 

[Migara]

Isn't it more that they're more likely to win you a game than Warne/Murali in any given conditions, spinny pitches excepted?

I mean its not like the teams picked are choosing Zaheer Khan as third seamer.

Marshall, McGrath, Imran, Murali, Warne would do.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Maybe 1 or 2 are better than Warne

100+ better than Murali though

 

[Red]

I have observed that whenever someone picks ATXI they pick 3 pace bowlers and 1 of Warne/Murali. This means that they consider the 3rd pacer to be better than either of Warne/Murali otherwise why not pick both ?
So how many fast bowlers do you consider to be better than atleast one of Warne/Murali ?

Most sides in modern times in most conditions select three quicks and a spinner, and generally have someone in the top six who is a proper all rounder or who can bowl a few mediums or spinners. Generally ATXIs follow this convention.

If you’re selecting an ATXI for the subcontinent or old SCG conditions you might select two spinners, but it’s usually 3 quicks and a spinner who make up most XIs.

 

[cnerd123]

You need 3 quicks because they're fragile and can break down. You don't want to play a Test with just 1 frontline seamer.