England test tour of Pakistan December 2022

[Everton Seymour]

this isn’t going to work on pitches that have more for bowlers like South African ones. I’d wait before calling for the demise of the blockers

There will be times that it goes horribly wrong yes but you can't deny that England have unlocked a very important truth .

Runrates in Test Cricket are generally low because teams choose to do so, because scoring around 2.5-4 runs per over is how it's generally been done in Test cricket for a hundred years .. England took a step back and said hang on , we play white ball cricket and even against the best teams in the world there's an expectation to score at above 5 runs an over in ODI cricket or 8-10 runs an over in T20 regardless of who the bowlers are or what the pitch is doing, so why can't we do it in Tests ? ..

 

[Daemon]

Now it's showing him bowling at 148, I think the broadcaster forgot to turn off the Haris Rauf setting

Holy **** now they turned it off again.

I really think they're just making it up.

 

[honestbharani]

This could still get a result if Pakistan bat inexplicably badly like they sometimes can. But Ramiz should still be tried for crimes against the sport. I don't think I can handle another set of pitches here like the Australia series.

He will tweet they did better than a billion dollar economy though.

 

[Chubb]

Crawley aiming for another 267 but wants it in 200 balls.

even a ton and the English media will fawn all over him and he won’t get dropped for two years.

Can see the headline already: “Crawley repays England’s faith”

 

[Prince EWS]

Now it's showing him bowling at 148, I think the broadcaster forgot to turn off the Haris Rauf setting

It's been happening all over too, not just one ball. He's not bowling anywhere near that speed lol

 

[Prince EWS]

Huge no ball

**** this Test is hilarious. I'll get bored quickly but I love it so far. What a joke.

 

[ashley bach]

What's the most runs in the 1st session of a test or series?

Just the question I had in mind, surely they must be in the hunt for a record here?

 

[TT Boy]

Say what you will about the wicket but this is Crawley and Duckett. Crawley has a terrible test record, Duckett hasn't played in 6 years, they're going at 8 runs an over and both probably have a dicky tummy. It's incredible what England are doing in test cricket.

 

[Socerer 01]

There will be times that it goes horribly wrong yes but you can't deny that England have unlocked a very important truth .

Runrates in Test Cricket are generally low because teams choose to do so, because scoring around 2.5-4 runs per over is how it's generally been done in Test cricket for a hundred years .. England took a step back and said hang on , we play white ball cricket and even against the best teams in the world there's an expectation to score at above 5 runs an over in ODI cricket or 8-10 runs an over in T20 regardless of who the bowlers are or what the pitch is doing, so why can't we do it in Tests ? ..

it isn’t just teams choosing to do so lol, pitches are definitely a huge reason. If not Finch and Roy would have been test successes as openers and we would have Sehwag clones running everywhere

 

[Prince EWS]

Have I mentioned that this pitch is flat?

 

[ashley bach]

Have I mentioned that this pitch is flat?

How is it for batting though?

 

[Everton Seymour]

it isn’t just teams choosing to do so lol, pitches are definitely a huge reason. If not Finch and Roy would have been test successes as openers and we would have Sehwag clones running everywhere

You're talking about players who weren't playing in teams with this type of culture and mindsight , you gave the example of Finch ...His Test SR was 44 he was programmed to play the conventional way of Test cricket ...even Roy his Test SR was 58 , no way does Roy play at a SR of 58 playing his natural game...Not a relevant comparison.

 

[Zinzan]

Will Baz Ball work in Pakistan - I have my doubts and much will depend on the pitches.

Interesting question.

 

[Socerer 01]

You're talking about players who weren't playing in teams with this type of culture and mindsight , you gave the example of Finch ...His Test SR was 44 he was programmed to play the conventional way of Test cricket ...even Roy his Test SR was 58 , no way does Roy play at a SR of 58 playing his natural game...Not a relevant comparison.

Roy played his natural game that got him a batting average of 18

You’ve neglected to mention Roy’s fc sr was 80..granted in the middle order but that also proves that he simply couldn’t make the step up because he was **** and conditions then were harsher for batting and not because he lacked Baz shouting motivational mantras in his ear

 

[TheJediBrah]

There will be times that it goes horribly wrong yes but you can't deny that England have unlocked a very important truth .

Wait are you actually saying this unironically?

 

[Socerer 01]

You're talking about players who weren't playing in teams with this type of culture and mindsight , you gave the example of Finch ...His Test SR was 44 he was programmed to play the conventional way of Test cricket ...even Roy his Test SR was 58 , no way does Roy play at a SR of 58 playing his natural game...Not a relevant comparison.

Baz was also the captain of NZ once and the team did play aggressive cricket then and did not unleash a new era of test cricket in any way

 

[Starfighter]

There will be times that it goes horribly wrong yes but you can't deny that England have unlocked a very important truth .

Runrates in Test Cricket are generally low because teams choose to do so, because scoring around 2.5-4 runs per over is how it's generally been done in Test cricket for a hundred years .. England took a step back and said hang on , we play white ball cricket and even against the best teams in the world there's an expectation to score at above 5 runs an over in ODI cricket or 8-10 runs an over in T20 regardless of who the bowlers are or what the pitch is doing, so why can't we do it in Tests ? ..

Australia regularly scored at high rates throughout the 00s. This was deemed revolutionary at the time. It was an era of flat pitches. Subsequently, whenever difficult conditions have been encountered, run rates slowed down to more normal levels, or teams got bowled out for very low totals.

No coincidence that England were able to make this tactic work both with the flattest pitches seen there for years and the reduction in the size of the seam on the Dukes ball ordered by the ECB, as well as a widely attested decline in its quality over the past year.

You're talking about players who weren't playing in teams with this type of culture and mindsight , you gave the example of Finch ...His Test SR was 44 he was programmed to play the conventional way of Test cricket ...even Roy his Test SR was 58 , no way does Roy play at a SR of 58 playing his natural game...Not a relevant comparison.

It is a relevant comparison as it shows the flaws in your argument. Both Roy and Finch were given every chance to play hair natural game. Roy was pretty much told to do so. They both failed, because their natural game couldn't cope with moving ball. The fact their strike rates were lower was not a consequence of them not playing their natural games, but rather that they didn't work in tests.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I doubt there's ever been a faster 100 brought up on day 1 of a test series.

Can't have been many faster ever in any 1st innings.

 

[honestbharani]

because he lacked Baz shouting motivational mantras in his ear

Maybe what he needed was more of this......

 

[Socerer 01]

Maybe what he needed was more of this......

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