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Garry Sobers vs Brian Lara?

Garry Sobers Vs Brian Lara

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Godard

U19 Vice-Captain
Adorable Asshole said:
He averaged 83 and 89 against India and Pakistan who were minnows in their time. Without them his average falls 49. Still good but he did a bit of minnow bashing.

Compared to Lara who has a more well rounded record.

Both are in my top 10 tho.
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Lara played against better attacks for sure, but doesn’t have a more well rounded record. It is not very clear looking at their their home/away averages, but if I had to choose one, it would be Sobers. Outside of WI(where Sobers has even better performance, tho both were great home batsmen), Lara only averages 50+ in one major nation(tho 100 in SL). Averages below 40 in Ind and NZ, barely averages 40+ in Aus. Does average 45+ in SA and Eng, however in Pak, average got really boosted in the last 8 or so matches in which he played a Pak attack without the two Ws. Major nations where Sobers played in were Aus, Ind, Eng, Pak, NZ. Was good in Aus(46), great in Eng(53), superlative ind(99), great at home, didn’t do well in NZ only, only played two matches in Pak.
 
Adorable Asshole

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
h_hurricane said:
Sobers averaged 60.62 when he batted at no.5 or above, and scored around 60% of his runs at these positions. His great average is in spite of batting at 6, not because of it.

Also, others you mentioned did not have the workload of bowling an insane 40 overs per match, hence could focus on their batting alone. One more reason why I rate Sobers as the best ever batsman after Bradman. A unique cricketer in history whichever way you look at it.
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if we go down by this logic then Imran is a better bowler thn Mcgrath, Sangakkara is a better batsman than Sachin
 
Adorable Asshole

Adorable Asshole

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Godard said:
Lara played against better attacks for sure, but doesn’t have a more well rounded record. It is not very clear looking at their their home/away averages, but if I had to choose one, it would be Sobers. Outside of WI(where Sobers has even better performance, tho both were great home batsmen), Lara only averages 50+ in one major nation(tho 100 in SL). Averages below 40 in Ind and NZ, barely averages 40+ in Aus. Does average 45+ in SA and Eng, however in Pak, average got really boosted in the last 8 or so matches in which he played a Pak attack without the two Ws. Major nations where Sobers played in were Aus, Ind, Eng, Pak, NZ. Was good in Aus(46), great in Eng(53), superlative ind(99), great at home, didn’t do well in NZ only, only played two matches in Pak.
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Lara only played 3 matches in India so we can excuse his performance there
 
G

Godard

U19 Vice-Captain
Adorable Asshole said:
Lara only played 3 matches in India so we can excuse his performance there
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Well also in the only major away nation he mastered, Lara played 4 matches only, compared to Sobers played 9 matches in India. Plus even without Ind, Lara was substandard in NZ ans barely above standard in Aus. Sobers mastered conditions at home, Aus(to a better extent than Lara), Eng and Ind.
 
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Godard said:
Well also in the only major away nation he mastered, Lara played 4 matches only, compared to Sobers played 9 matches in India. Plus even without Ind, Lara was substandard in NZ ans barely above standard in Aus. Sobers mastered conditions at home, Aus(to a better extent than Lara), Eng and Ind.
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Except Sobers never had to play against McWarne
 
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Godard

U19 Vice-Captain
Lara had his best series in Aus in 1991-92 when neither Warne nor McGrath were bowling. Played 3 series vs them in Aus. Struggled in first 2, scored in 2005-06, but most of those runs came in the final test, when the series was decided, that too on and Adelaide road.
 
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Godard said:
Lara had his best series in Aus in 1991-92 when neither Warne nor McGrath were bowling. Played 3 series vs them in Aus. Struggled in first 2, scored in 2005-06, but most of those runs came in the final test, when the series was decided, that too on and Adelaide road.
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Lara played his first series in '92/93. It was his third series overall against a decent Australian attack which did include Warne.
 
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Godard

U19 Vice-Captain
Point is also Sobers had one decent and one very good series in Aus(in second he outscored Lara’s best serie ). He never struggled there like Lara in 96-97, or 2000-01.
 
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Godard

U19 Vice-Captain
More than just decent actually, quite good;

1966-67 vs Ind: Bedi, Prasanna, Chandrashekhar
1970-71 vs Ind: Bedi, Prasanna, Venkatraghavan
1960-61 vs Aus: Benaud, Davidson
1959-60 vs Eng: Trueman, Statham
1966-67 vs Eng: Snow, Underwood, Higgs
1973 vs Eng: Underwood, Greig, Willis
1958 vs Ind: Gupte, Mankad(in India)
 
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