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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
He has reached the acceptance.
Athlai
Not Terrible
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ashley bach
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't change your opinion about Kallis, despite the crap he receives here, still a legend in his own right.
don’t dislike him, just don’t think he’s the best cricketer ever(or among the top dozen or so), or the second best all rounder after Sobers
Prince EWS
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I was explained that Taibu does in fact have a head.
anil1405
International Captain
Taibu > Wade
Prince EWS
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He's definitely amongst the top dozen imo.
Imran and Sobers both better allrounders though.
trundler
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Nah he's definitely not Sobers and comparisons with him are unwarranted beyond the fact that they're both loosely batting all rounders. Similar role but Sobers is a better batsman and a much better bowler. Bowled a lot more and didn't have the same limitations in batting. Sobers is only slightly less of an upgrade over Kallis than Kallis is over Ted Dexter et al. Kallis over Sobers is based on one completely meaningless and pointless stat really.
I had Kallis in my top 15 batters of all time so I'm not underrating his batting but he's definitely not Sobers.
I had Kallis in my top 15 batters of all time so I'm not underrating his batting but he's definitely not Sobers.
cnerd123
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I also learnt the term 'Spark'd' to cover moments like this on CW
Personal top 12:
Bradman, Sobers, Tendulkar, Imran, Marshall, Warne, McGrath, Viv, Hobbs, Lara, Murali, Barnes
Add Gilchrist to that
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Not that anyone asked but I'll elaborate. Kallis is a very valuable and unique cricketer from a utilitarian perspective. ATG batsman + proper fifth bowler is a gun combo for team balance and flexibility. But his all round credentials are vastly overstated. What's his best series with bat and ball? Or year? Once you account for minnow bashing, his bowling is closer to the lower threshold for all rounder. Sure, aggregates count for something and I'm not saying he's not an ATG but surely actually performing as an all rounder is the primary criteria to rate all rounders on. I say that in terms of great performances, consistency, impact and such. He was a unique cricketer that SA still haven't managed to replace but yeah. It's very strange that people both genuinely think he's not in the top 20 batters of all time or that he's comparable to Kasprowicz as a bowler. Both statements **** with my head.
StephenZA
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It amazes me that people still under estimate the value Kallis brought to a SA team for 15 years. And its basically because he was not flash and did not walk with a swagger. Kallis is one of the first names on the team sheet for an all time SA XI, in a country that has produced many world class allrounders and some top quality batsmen.
Kallis was a 140+ swing bowler and many underestimate him because he was not required to be more than a holding bowler for SA who had a team of generally great bowlers, but needed top order batsmen. That is what people fail to understand. In any team he would find a place because he had skills across the board to play just about any role that the team asked him to play.
Kallis was a 140+ swing bowler and many underestimate him because he was not required to be more than a holding bowler for SA who had a team of generally great bowlers, but needed top order batsmen. That is what people fail to understand. In any team he would find a place because he had skills across the board to play just about any role that the team asked him to play.
Kallis was one of the best test bats of his generation(though behind Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting and Waugh). But making a top 20 list for greatest batsmen without Kallis is justifiable.
Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Viv, Hobbs, Lara, Smith, Hutton, Headley, Hammond, Gavaskar, Hammond, Sutcliffe, Border, Ponting, S Waugh, G Chappel, Pollock, Miandad, Barrington.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
And Sangakkara
Not for me. Sangakkara’s home/away is seriously not good. Low average in Ind, South Africa, Wi and just abt average in Eng. Averages 60 in Aus, but only played 5 tests there only. Has scored truckload of runs against Bangladesh and Zim. Also scored many of his runs against a Pak attack, which barring Ajmal, was a joke. Plus played in one of the best eras of batting.