How Lucky are England in ICC tournaments ?

[Sunil1z]

No , I am not attributing trophy to merely toss win because even to reach last 4 you have to play very good cricket. But I am seeing a pattern that in last 3 WT20 ,all the knockouts have been won by team batting 2nd . So is batting becoming easy in 2nd half or scoreboard pressure no longer applicable.

And other thing is England is yet to win a knockout batting 1st since 2015 . Didn’t we have suggestions in Test match to get rid of toss (Ponting?) .So what can be done in knockouts so that team batting 2nd don’t win all the matches (9 out of 9 in the last 3 WT20)

 

[cnerd123]

Had one of Williamson (40 off 40), Neesham (6 off 3), or Mitchell (3 off 5) succeeded with the bat, England would've been knocked out, but T20 is random.

that is success by Williamson's standards

 

[ataraxia]

They have brought about a generational shift in how LO cricket is played.

*counts number of all-rounders in England team*

hmmmmm

 

[Jack1]

that is success by Williamson's standards

Williamson needs to inheret the nickname boom boom now

 

[Daemon]

Two quotes regarding luck in sport are worth remembering:

"You make your own luck."

"The harder I work/practise the luckier I get."

Only ever said by lucky people.

English players very lucky to benefit from good infrastructure due to a relatively good economy built on the back of colonialism.

It’s all falling apart now because you can only ride on stolen wealth for so long but they have a huge headstart.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

This is what I remember Ben Stokes for:

Big crowd for a Warriors match.

 

[Line and Length]

Only ever said by lucky people.

English players very lucky to benefit from good infrastructure due to a relatively good economy built on the back of colonialism.

It’s all falling apart now because you can only ride on stolen wealth for so long but they have a huge headstart.

That's a rather large chip on your shoulder,

 

[honestbharani]

*counts number of all-rounders in England team*

hmmmmm

As I always tell you guys, my methods get results. ?

 

[grecian]

The fact is most of limited overs is built around good pitches and lots of runs, we are undoubtably and by far the best on these type of pitches, The fact is administrators have saddled us with dud pitches for most of these Tournaments, we still won two, but have been very unlucky to play on sponges.

We will console ourselves with two World Cups though.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

In last 3 WT20 (16,21,22) all the 9 knockout matches have been won by team batting 2nd. I can certainly see a pattern.

Excellent. ICC can shorten the game time and maximise sales by just having a coin toss to decide who will bat 2nd.

GAME OVER.

Cricket may face an IP challenge from the Coin Toss Super Max League Plus though.

 

[grecian]

Excellent. ICC can shorten the game time and maximise sales by just having a coin toss to decide who will bat 2nd.

GAME OVER.

Cricket may face an IP challenge from the Coin Toss Super Max League Plus though.

Good idea, maybe the most sensible of the thread so far.

Yet I fear Simon Cowell actually tried to build an entire show around this with Ant&Dec, it bombed.

 

[Daemon]

That's a rather large chip on your shoulder,

Decades of oppression have chipped away at mine and my forefathers shoulders yes.

It’s tough but some of us have risen to great heights despite this. I won botm last year for example.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Man, how lucky is Daemon in BotM tournaments??

Dude literally forfeited part way through and still got awarded the trophy by the (presumably bought) Australian overseer.

 

[Sunil1z]

that is success by Williamson's standards

He should be the captain of this team ?

 

[Xuhaib]

I think batting second in t 20 is mostly an advantage as teams batting first struggle to decode the ideal score so can go too hard or too slow.

In other formats its not not much of a advantage going first or second.

 

[srbhkshk]

In other formats its not not much of a advantage going first or second.

I'd say batting first is generally a decent advantage in tests.

 

[Xuhaib]

I'd say batting first is generally a decent advantage in tests.

In sub cont and Australia.

 

[srbhkshk]

In sub cont and Australia.

 

[slippy888]

Excellent. ICC can shorten the game time and maximise sales by just having a coin toss to decide who will bat 2nd.

GAME OVER.

Cricket may face an IP challenge from the Coin Toss Super Max League Plus though.

It literally takes 10 minutes for it to be decided, they should have a bowl out before game or have 1 over with most boundaries scored to Decide.

 

[slippy888]

In 20 20 it a must something has to be done i am sure Dave Richardson from the icc will sort out something