Ravindra Jadeja vs Graeme Swann

[honestbharani]

What nationality are you my friend? See you live in New York but can't imagine you're American.

Take a guess based on his hate boner for anything to do with Indian cricket.

 

[subshakerz]

Please check his record in Asia. Guy was found wanting many times .
Spinners primary job is to win his side in Asia.
You won't rate Srinath higher because of his better average in Asia and being poor performer in pace friendly countries

The difference is how much weightage we give to being able to win matches overseas.

 

[ashley bach]

Take a guess based on his hate boner for anything to do with Indian cricket.

Could it be the team that lost to Zimbabwe the other day?
Who in turn are getting polaxed by the dutch.

 

[subshakerz]

You can keep referring Jadeja as home bully . But as I said earlier, I would prefer home bully like Jadeja who has lost 1 test match in a decade over ATG like Wasim and Waqar who who lost 3 home series in 3 years.
Let's agree to disagree.

Jadeja equals team India and better than Wasim, Waqar apparently.

 

[honestbharani]

Could it be the team that lost to Zimbabwe the other day?
Who in turn are getting polaxed by the dutch.

His passion gives it away, huh?

 

[subshakerz]

This is so wrong. He isn't biased against any team or player but his arguments and logic tend to be distorted at times and infuriating too.

I don't mind posters saying I am illogical but the anti-India bias I find silly. I hold team India of the 2000s in high esteem.

 

[subshakerz]

His passion gives it away, huh?

You should appreciate me more because I at least give you material to post half of your posts in this forum.

 

[Coronis]

Well I guess Pakistan vs India is more exciting than the usual Aus vs India posts.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Jadeja is as good as Warne imo. Warne averaged close to 45 in India so not like he would do better with those home conditions. Jadeja averages 21 in Australia so he would still average about the same playing his home games there.

And this is FACHT!

 

[_00_deathscar]

As long as he isn't an Indian home bully.

I've argued for plenty of Indian cricketers before on CW. I got a lot of hate for giving props to Harbi some time back. By Indian posters no less.

Cos you’re mental and think Harbhajan “averaged nearly 40 for the last 70 tests” Singh was as good as Jadeja

 

[subshakerz]

Cos you’re mental and think Harbhajan “averaged nearly 40 for the last 70 tests” Singh was as good as Jadeja

I don't. I only argued he is a better bowler outside the SC, at least in the late 2000s.

 

[Socerer 01]

wow this guy never gives up does he

 

[Pup Clarke]

Swann was a phenomenal bowler. Bowled with heaps of revs and was supremely accurate too
I'd still put Jadeja just ahead of him tho. It felt like up until 2016 he was quite a one-dimensional bowler who just used to dart it in consistently. From memory he subsequently took a 7-for in SA and that opened my eyes as to how good a bowler he is. Miserly and versatile spinner who would thrive in all conditions and in whatever era
I suppose not having a matchwinning spell in Aus is the only 'blemish' on his CV tbh. Quality spinner

 

[trundler]

I think I'm going to call it the Ikki:

1. Make highly subjective, highly contestable claim about something which is difficult to judge
2. Call claim a "fact" or "obvious" or something else
3. Say that anyone who disagrees with this claim is being dishonest or gaslighting etc

So aggravating.

It's an infuriating line of posting but given how much abuse he cops, it's still pretty restrained IMO. Never agree with Subshakerz but everything he says is followed by a pile on.

 

[_00_deathscar]

It's an infuriating line of posting but given how much abuse he cops, it's still pretty restrained IMO. Never agree with Subshakerz but everything he says is followed by a pile on.

It’s cos it’s a deliberately confrontational style of posting.
Doubt there are too many who rate Bumrah over Cummins.
Swann/Jadeja is close etc.

But he goes around acting a thunder****.

 

[CricAddict]

I don't mind posters saying I am illogical but the anti-India bias I find silly. I hold team India of the 2000s in high esteem.

No you don't. You always follow any appreciation related to Indian cricket with a 'but' that is insinuating and insulting.

 

[honestbharani]

No you don't. You always follow any appreciation related to Indian cricket with a 'but' that is insinuating and insulting.

And with respect to what @trundler posted... The only pile-on is the sheer volume of saltshakerz posts in CC. The obvious agenda and bias and tedious attempts at showing himself as a "neutral" poster and irrational and ilogical posting can all be manageable if the volume was not this much. Literally every other post/thread on CC is saltshakerz with the same obvious drivel.

 

[subshakerz]

It’s cos it’s a deliberately confrontational style of posting.
Doubt there are too many who rate Bumrah over Cummins.
Swann/Jadeja is close etc.

But he goes around acting a thunder****.

frankly, aside from you fanboyz, the rest of the posters dont get triggered and are able to stick to arguments without all the silly personal jibes.

 

[subshakerz]

It's an infuriating line of posting but given how much abuse he cops, it's still pretty restrained IMO. Never agree with Subshakerz but everything he says is followed by a pile on.

Unfortunately I am dealing with a hive mind here of reactionary posters who lose all nuance when it comes to arguing with me.

 

[trundler]

And with respect to what @trundler posted... The only pile-on is the sheer volume of saltshakerz posts in CC. The obvious agenda and bias and tedious attempts at showing himself as a "neutral" poster and irrational and ilogical posting can all be manageable if the volume was not this much. Literally every other post/thread on CC is saltshakerz with the same obvious drivel.

I never agree with the guy because his reasoning is often times spurious and kind of illogical eg rating Waugh over Kallis for being quick scoring and unselfish but he's treated like Ikki or TNT when he's just.. disagreeable. It's very grating to read unfounded assertions passed off as objective facts, yes but you gotta give him props for withstanding the abuse. Plus, sometimes he just gets jeered at simply because people assume he has an ulterior motive. Reactionary race baiting is always an eye sore.