subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
As long as he isn't an Indian home bully.
I've argued for plenty of Indian cricketers before on CW. I got a lot of hate for giving props to Harbi some time back. By Indian posters no less.
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Ravindra Jadeja vs Graeme Swann
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I've argued for plenty of Indian cricketers before on CW. I got a lot of hate for giving props to Harbi some time back. By Indian posters no less.
sunilz
International Regular
sunilz
International Regular
And same can't be applied to Swann performance in 2012 against a washed up Indian batting line up consisting of Gambhir, Sehwag, Sachin and Yuvraj
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I am the only one who did that, sure.
Calm_profit
State Vice-Captain
I ve seen Harbhajan getting hate even on indian forums despite performing better than Ashwin and Jadeja at overseas.
sunilz
International Regular
Once again you are ignoring Jadeja's record in AUS , SA , SL , WI
His only failure is in NZ .I don't consider him a failure in ENG (vs Swann who averaged 40 against India in a series where India lost 4-0).
Spark
Global Moderator
I mean... yes?
If you take Jadeja's record in Australia at face value then not picking him for every game is basically the greatest selectorial crime in cricketing history. Clearly no one thinks that, so everyone agrees that it needs to be caveated somehow.
I'd still pick him over Swann obviously but his record in Aus is a pretty clear example of samplesizelol imo.
Daemon
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I’m only doing this to try and appear objective, like how certain people pretend to argue for the other side from time to time so they can claim they are too.
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
To be brutal you should not really count those.... as he has hardly played at all in those countries.
anil1405
International Captain
This is so wrong. He isn't biased against any team or player but his arguments and logic tend to be distorted at times and infuriating too.
sunilz
International Regular
I said in my 1st post on this thread , I have no problem with you preferring Swann .what I hate about you is ignoring Swann's 42 average in AUS , SA and NZ and Jadeja's 30 average in these countries
And 2nd point is you can't argue Harris better than Kapil and Swann better than Jadeja simultaneously.
Remaining it is upto you. You can keep rating any player higher .
You can keep referring Jadeja as home bully . But as I said earlier, I would prefer home bully like Jadeja who has lost 1 test match in a decade over ATG like Wasim and Waqar who who lost 3 home series in 3 years.
Let's agree to disagree.
sunilz
International Regular
I believe you are a reasonable poster . You have missed his arguments in Kapil vs Harris thread where he said Kapil was never as good as Harris.
I believe both Harris and Jadeja are flattered by their bowling average.
If Swann had 450 wickets @30 , I would have rated him higher than Jadeja. But when you neither have longevity nor have the better average, I couldn't be bothered.
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sunilz
International Regular
Please check his record in Asia. Guy was found wanting many times .
Spinners primary job is to win his side in Asia.
You won't rate Srinath higher because of his better average in Asia and being poor performer in pace friendly countries
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Dont think its the best or even any good, but its basically every post of his in CC.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Such is life.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
ashley bach
Cricketer Of The Year
What nationality are you my friend? See you live in New York but can't imagine you're American.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Not at all.. Its an obvious fact that the internet is full of rational and intellectual debate on all topics and you are just being dishonest if you can't see this.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Lol he played only 1 test in SA and delivered a journeyman performance. You say you care about averages but give him a pass in England. SL I give him credit but still part of SC.