Donald Bradman's average

[TheJediBrah]

Really ? OK let's see. India had zilch in the 80s, as did Australia. In the 90s, Australia had Warne and later MacGill and now Lyons.

Top class spinner? He's so **** you can't even get his name right.

If he was Sri Lankan he'd be playing park cricket

 

[Slifer]

Top class spinner? He's so **** you can't even get his name right.

If he was Sri Lankan he'd be playing park cricket

Where did I say Lyon was top class?? I also mentioned Harbajan, and afaic, they're in the similar class. And if we're going by quality then India hasn't produced a spinner in the same class as Warne. Period. And my point is still valid in that over their history, Australia has been able to produce as many spinners as India.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Steve O'Keefe was top class

 

[Nintendo]

Th

Steve O'Keefe was top class

The women's team didn't think so.

 

[Coronis]

Still Russell's rings aren't Bradmanesque since they aren't individual stats. Wilt's achievements are. And again, had Wilt not consciously decided to stop scoring, his ppg average easily could've been mid to low 40s.

But yeah the whole point of basketball is winning games rather than playing as selfishly as Wilt did in the early days of his career.

 

[TheJediBrah]

But yeah the whole point of basketball is winning games rather than playing as selfishly as Wilt did in the early days of his career.

The same with cricket, but we're not talking about the best teams, we're talking about Bradman

 

[Coronis]

The same with cricket, but we're not talking about the best teams, we're talking about Bradman

Who iirc tho never put selfish things like scoring 100 in a single game ahead of his team’s success.

But anyway even in that 50 point season, we have Baylor at 38, and 4 other players over 30. And yeah Wilt’s stats don’t stand out that much over his career compared to other ATG’s, unlike Bradman’s.

 

[Burgey]

Australia: O'Reilly, Grimmett, Benaud, Mallet, Warne, MacGill, Lyons, Yardley,

Arthur Mailey dislikes this list

 

[Coronis]

Arthur Mailey dislikes this list

Overrated hacks can like and dislike whatever they want.

 

[Slifer]

Who iirc tho never put selfish things like scoring 100 in a single game ahead of his team’s success.

But anyway even in that 50 point season, we have Baylor at 38, and 4 other players over 30. And yeah Wilt’s stats don’t stand out that much over his career compared to other ATG’s, unlike Bradman’s.

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Tbf, because of the nature of Basketball, Wilt would probably be better compared to an all rounder than a batsman like the Don.

 

[Burgey]

Overrated hacks can like and dislike whatever they want.

Harsh on @Daemon but true, I suppose.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

XD

Don't think he uses this as a nickname.

 

[Xix2565]

Don't think he uses this as a nickname.

He should, would be a crime not to.

 

[CricAddict]

Really ? OK let's see. India had zilch in the 80s, as did Australia. In the 90s, Australia had Warne and later MacGill and now Lyons. India had Kumble, Jadeja and Ashwin. Maybe a case can be made for Harbajan. But whereas, Australia's spinners were usually serviceable home and away (Warne was great), India's were and still are only really useful in Asia. Over the course of history, Australia's ability imo, matches India's in terms of quantity and quality.

India: Bedi, Gupte, Chandrasekhar, Prassana, Kumble, Harbhajan, Jadeja, Ashwin

Australia: O'Reilly, Grimmett, Benaud, Mallet, Warne, MacGill, Lyons, Yardley,

You should read Migara's post again. Half the spinners you have mentioned played before India became a serious cricket nation.

 

[andruid]

Speaking of other sports if darts is considered one, than there was an English guy who won many championships, his name was Phil I guess.

Phil 'The Power' Taylor. The one true pub legend.

Also let me also bring up Serena Williams. She and her sister Venus changed women's tennis in addition to her winning so much.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I've looked for examples in other sports as well, to compare. There is nothing like Don Bradman, when it comes to statistical outliers I'm aware of. Not Babe Ruth, not Pele, not Wilt or Russell. He's a standard deviation, in statistical performance, above all of them as well, and one of a kind in modern sporting history. So the answer to OP, is no.

Richie McCaw - the goat of the history of sport

 

[Coronis]

Soz last thing I’ll say about Wilt in this thread but yeah I am a big basketball lover too.



Most FG’s attempted in a single season leaderboard, this is why its not such a big deal compared to Bradman, bloke shot the ball 800 more times that season than anyone else ever has.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Jahangir Khan is the closest I can think off Went 6 years and 555 matches unbeaten Not sure what was more competitive and professional cricket in 30's or Squash in 80's

He lost to Ross Norman (a Kiwi).

Talking of squash, another Aussie Heather McKay must be an option for better than Bradman. Only lost 2 matches (1960, 1962) in over 20 years of matches (she retired in 1981). Won 16 consecutive British Opens, the first 2 World Champs

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Imagine if one of nadal/Federer/djokovich didn't exist we would have two guys at 30 slams or some thing with next best @ 14. And if only one of them existed then we are going to Bradman and beyond territory.

Yeah, but the one might have retired years ago due to loss of motivation (too easy to win Slams).

 

[TheJediBrah]

Federer was something special when he was peaking. Not convinced anyone has reached the standard since when he had his first run at no.1. Combination of Nadal/Djokovic/Murray coming along and Federer dropping a bit led to the competitiveness since IMO