I agree, incidentally. Although his god awful FC record suggests there's more than meets the eye, given he does look good when he's in.
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*Official* South African tour of England and Ireland 2022
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Calm_profit
State Vice-Captain
Actually Keaton is very good on subcontinent pitches,England made a mistake that he wasn't selected to Indian tour last year,I know he wouldn't have scored against the likes of Ashwin and Axar but he would definitely scored better than other openers like Burns and Sibley.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah but that's kinda my point - you don't think this because of what school he goes to. Crawley can make no runs all he likes, you still think this - it's a totally viable opinion to have without being part of the aristrocracy.
Shady Slim
International Coach
tbh crawley is the exactly opposite of like the "statistically speaking the best basketballer ever is probably some mongolian sherpa" argument i have seen
he's had every structural advantage you could wish for, and, while i don't suggest one can necessarily fault his effort he's just not up to the job
he's had every structural advantage you could wish for, and, while i don't suggest one can necessarily fault his effort he's just not up to the job
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Again shockingly I'm not in this Kill the rich thing here, and I just want him gone because he can't score runs.
Yet the point is because of his advantages, it's hard to think he will ever be anything better than he is. As for looking good, I actually think Pope looks better, because you can see how he accumulates runs. I mean what was that stat about crawley edging the ball a ridiculous high per-cent, some are fine along the deck, but an huge percentage isn't, He's just not an England opening bat, and yeah he comes up with the odd good innings after he's survived about 15 edges early on, but that is clearly going to be few and far between.
He does work hard, but again, all those privileges and a work ethic and you are still ****, maybe you are always going to be ****.
A similar argument is made about a lot of privileged tennis players, but most don't get anywhere, yet occasionally a Jessica Pegula comes along and has clearly got something along with all the privilege, and she gets results.
For the record I'd go back to Sibley and Burns, and just settle for their mediocrity.
Hard to disagree with this, at least for the next couple of years. Almost 48 Test innings and 150 FC innings is a pretty significant sample size upon which to make a judgement, even if he is 24. He definitely needs an extended run at FC level to figure out his game, probably in the most part mentally.
Mark Butcher: Brendon McCullum’s Zak Crawley support ‘sounds ridiculous’
England Test coach Brendon McCullum’s backing of the underperforming Zak Crawley has been criticised by Mark Butcher.
wisden.com
Hard to argue with Mark Butcher, here.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Crawley has never been good enough. Nothing has changed since he first came into the team - there's been a couple of false dawns, that's all.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
Ehh, there was definitely some promise early days. Kid kept on raising his highest score in tests than had a great home summer vs Pak and windies, went back to domestic and made some of the easiest 100's in T20 and fc I've ever seen. Kids just gone off a cliff recently for whatever reason.
Arachnodouche
International Captain
Funny how judgements on privilege only ever apply to batsmen and a lack of grit at the crease. Noone ever accuses a bowler of chucking pies because of private schooling. Then again the rich kids I grew up with always wanted to bat too.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
It's a bit of a cliche, but bowling, and seam up bowling in particular, has mostly been seen as the preserve of cricketers of more humble origins and the nobby players tended to be batters, at least in the UK.
There used to be an old saw to the effect of one should whistle down a mine if one wanted a fast bowler.
I think Stuart Broad was privately educated, but most of the flak he copped early on (that didn't reference a passing similarity to Draco Malfoy) was about who his dad was, rather than his alma mater.
Anderson, Potts and Stokes (and Leach too, I think) are all state educated.
Chubb
International Regular
Yup Leach went to Richard Huish College in Taunton, a state sixth form. My sister went there too. It's across the road from Kings College, the alma mater of old time CW moneybags Langeveldt.
Talking of judging people, Leach gets called a village cricketer because he wears glasses and bowls spin. Don't see them calling Zafar Ansari or Alex Loudon village cricketers. He's ten times the player they were.
Talking of judging people, Leach gets called a village cricketer because he wears glasses and bowls spin. Don't see them calling Zafar Ansari or Alex Loudon village cricketers. He's ten times the player they were.
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
Probably strengthens both the bowling and the batting slightly.
Crawley again though; what the actual **** is that about?
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Think Robinson in is the right move.
Don't like the stubbornness on Crawley at all, but Stokes and McCullum have backed him publicly to an insane extent, he wasn't getting dropped.
Don't like the stubbornness on Crawley at all, but Stokes and McCullum have backed him publicly to an insane extent, he wasn't getting dropped.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Yeah, it's like waiting for the results from an oncologist; deep down you know it'll be bad news, but until it's confirmed there's always hope it's benign.
Heboric
International Debutant
Yeah, Cricbuzz mentions it:
Robinson replaces Potts for Manchester Test
It will be the 28-year-old's first Test since he suffered a back injury in final Ashes Test in the winter
www.cricbuzz.com
and Supersport
https://supersport.com/cricket/engl..._returns_to_england_s_team_for_second_sa_test
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He's only scored 8 centuries in all cricket. He fluked a couple of good scores against average attacks. He's been crap against any decent bowling lineup.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
They'd named a squad for the first 2 tests hadn't they? I don't think there were any other openers in it.