CW's Ranking of Pace Bowlers (Tests)

[Slifer]

Donald

 

[OverratedSanity]

Donald being poor against Australia is mostly a myth

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Lillee

 

[trundler]

Could go Donald, Akram, DKL, Trueman or Lindwall but Holding isn't in the mix yet IMO.

 

[The Sean]

Wasim Akram

 

[subshakerz]

Donald being poor against Australia is mostly a myth

He was below par against Australia.

 

[Calm_profit]

He was below par against Australia.

Not true except in his last 2 test series which he was past his prime.

 

[morgieb]

IIRC his record is made to look worse because of those last three Tests he played where he was 35 and well past his best, but even then he averaged 27 rather than 22.

I'll vote Lillee here though obviously a few others are on par.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

This is not really getting enough votes to be representative of CW. In the Trueman/Akram thread Sir Freddie was well in front after 40 plus votes. Here he hasn’t had a vote, while the Akram lovers have been voting for him since first place.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Akram

 

[subshakerz]

IIRC his record is made to look worse because of those last three Tests he played where he was 35 and well past his best, but even then he averaged 27 rather than 22.

I'll vote Lillee here though obviously a few others are on par.

His record against Australia is a mixed bag really, not poor.

I think the series of Australia in South Africa in 96/97 when he was at his peak kind of dampened opinion of him in Aussie eyes. He was quite poor in those first two critical tests and only fired when the series was lost.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Marshall and Mcgrath had the luxury of playing for a super strong team.. Which is definitely a huge advantage.. Helps to achieve better avg, ER and SR.

Hadlee is the most impressive in top 3. ( also had far better longevity )

 

[_00_deathscar]

Akram
Greatest of last 100 years.

Since we are not considering Barnes the GOAT.

We aren't discussing ODIs either.

Has Wasim filed a restraining order against you yet?

 

[kyear2]

Marshall and Mcgrath had the luxury of playing for a super strong team.. Which is definitely a huge advantage.. Helps to achieve better avg, ER and SR.

Hadlee is the most impressive in top 3. ( also had far better longevity )

So basically disproving your theory that you have to be in good team to achieve that level of success?

 

[kyear2]

Could go Donald, Akram, DKL, Trueman or Lindwall but Holding isn't in the mix yet IMO.

Based on what if I may ask.

 

[honestbharani]

Wasim Akram

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Lillee

 

[trundler]

Based on what if I may ask.

Body of work. FST, Lindwall and DKL retired with a reputation of being the greatest ever. Akram is still widely regarded as such and Donald was on the same level throughout their careers. Holding just falls shy IMO. Garner is closer though.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

We aren't discussing ODIs either.

Has Wasim filed a restraining order against you yet?

Obviously.. Marshall is the list topper.. But then this is CW.. Anyway thank you for the clarification.

 

[subshakerz]

Body of work. FST, Lindwall and DKL retired with a reputation of being the greatest ever. Akram is still widely regarded as such and Donald was on the same level throughout their careers. Holding just falls shy IMO. Garner is closer though.

Donald wasnt and neither was Garner. They are more rated on this forum.