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CW's Ranking of Batsmen (Tests)

HookShot

HookShot

U19 Vice-Captain
Also, Greg Chappell averaged slightly more than Viv Richards (56 V 55) during WSC even though he had to face the Windies quartet, and Richards obviously didn’t.

It’s just a shame that Greg suffered from bad depression during the early 1980s as it dented his career somewhat.
 
Line and Length

Line and Length

Cricketer Of The Year
If we're looking at averages Pollock (60.97) > Barrington (58.67) > Sangakarra (57.40) > G.Chappell (53.86) > Ponting (51.85) > Border (50.56)
I agree, this poll has Chappell too high.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Chappell should have been higher, but now he’s in I have to vote for someone else. :angel_not
I think there are better batsman than Ponting going further back who had shorter careers, but he was such a run machine he probably should be top 15.

Ponting.
 
The Sean

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
This is flying by - I signed off last night with us voting for 12, and have checked in this morning with us voting for 14!
 
OverratedSanity

OverratedSanity

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HookShot said:
Greg Chappell played 87 Test matches and helped Australia to win 38 of them by averaging over 70.

There are few superior match-winners.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/stats-analysis-greg-chappell-489539
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Average in wins is a terrible metric to show match winning ability. If anything it rewards players who do well when the team is already coasting to a win . Not saying Chappell was one of those guys, but this kind of metric literally favours downhill skiiing.

For me, Chappell's record is significantly less impressive than both Ponting and Border among Australians because he had a much shorter career, had a merely decent record in the one country (England) he did tour for a significant number of tests , and almost all his other overseas runs came in massive scoring bore draws against poor (on paper) attacks. Which is why the "Chappell played in a harder era than Ponting" argument rings very very hollow for me.
 
The Sean

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
I've flipped in recent years on Sanga and Ponting - I now rate Sangakkara ahead. This seems to put me in the minority here, though in the all-time XI thread Sangakkara was voted in first.
 
P

PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain
OverratedSanity said:
Average in wins is a terrible metric to show match winning ability. If anything it rewards players who do well when the team is already coasting to a win . Not saying Chappell was one of those guys, but this kind of metric literally favours downhill skiiing.

For me, Chappell's record is significantly less impressive than both Ponting and Border among Australians because he had a much shorter career, had a merely decent record in the one country (England) he did tour for a significant number of tests , and almost all his other overseas runs came in massive scoring bore draws against poor (on paper) attacks. Which is why the "Chappell played in a harder era than Ponting" argument rings very very hollow for me.
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Chappell's career was 2 years shorter than Border and 3 years shorter than Ponting. Wouldn't really call that much shorter.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
The thing about Chappell is that he was also a business man thinking about life after cricket for most of his career and as a result opted out of a few series. That and WSC meant he played a bit less than a few other greats from the same era. It’s a matter of opinion whether that should count against him.
 
The Sean

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
CricAddict said:
I have been a lone voter for Border since Sutcliffe. Vindicated.
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It's Border's away record which really shines for me. He averaged nearly 57 away from home - including 65 in England, 51 in India, 50 in New Zealand, 62 in Pakistan and 53 in West Indies.

When you consider the era he played, the attacks he faced, and the lack of support he had for a lot of his career (particularly his peak years), it's an astounding record.
 
HookShot

HookShot

U19 Vice-Captain
OverratedSanity said:
Average in wins is a terrible metric to show match winning ability. If anything it rewards players who do well when the team is already coasting to a win . Not saying Chappell was one of those guys, but this kind of metric literally favours downhill skiiing.

For me, Chappell's record is significantly less impressive than both Ponting and Border among Australians because he had a much shorter career, had a merely decent record in the one country (England) he did tour for a significant number of tests , and almost all his other overseas runs came in massive scoring bore draws against poor (on paper) attacks. Which is why the "Chappell played in a harder era than Ponting" argument rings very very hollow for me.
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Ponting’s record in India is pretty ordinary...
14 Tests, 662 runs at an average of 26.

And so, when Australia did finally make their break through series win against India in India it was Damien Martyn who scored all the runs.

But yeah, apart from that Ponting was superb. Which is why he’s my avatar.
 
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