All time world test XI selection

[silentstriker]

Kallis is up there in same level as Sobers.

Love Kallis, but no.

 

[silentstriker]

Also, as others have said, in a team like this, he may not even get a bowl (crazy to say for a bowler with 200+ wickets) - and he still easily makes this team. There's a strong argument for him to be the second best batsman of all time, and I don't think there is anyone who would seriously argue against him being in the top five batsmen of all time.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Wisden Leading Cricketer of the year

Kallis - 1
Sobers - 8
?

 

[honestbharani]

Sobers at 6
Imran at 8.

I figured Imran will be better coming on at first change instead of Hadlee, who is a new ball bowler. Imran will also get the ball reverse swinging so the team will have a weapon from overs 1 to 80.

See in my alltime side, I tend to think this way but then I also feel Wasim will add more at that slot to the side than Imran. Imran is definitely the better cricketer and perhaps even the better bowler but the uptick in quality is not that high that it will devolve the other advantages of having Wasim - left armer, left hand bat etc. And if you need big runs from your #8 you are ****ed anyways. For a typical #8 role, I feel Wasim would add more to the side than Imran.

 

[_00_deathscar]

And if you need big runs from your #8 you are ****ed anyways.

Or be the best team since Waugh’s/Ponting’s Australia

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Sobers
Hadlee

 

[gftw]

Sobers
Hadlee

 

[kyear2]

Update.

Sobers - 12
Hammond - 3
Lara - 2
Richards - 1
Smith - 1
Miller - 1


Imran - 9
Hadlee - 6
Wasim - 2
Muralitharan - 1
Steyn - 1
Davidson - 1

 

[Prince EWS]

Hammond
Imran

 

[Line and Length]

Hammond
Sobers

 

[Nikhil99.99]

And the most important part, he's a top 5 batsman on top of everything else, he can make the team as a batsman alone before we look at the bowling and fielding. He is a lock for this or any possible team.

I believe he's just being contrarian for the sake of it at this point.

Ya,Sobers makes the team in batting alone.No question on that at all.I would have Hammond at 5,sobers at 6 in my all time team

 

[Days of Grace]

Interesting people are choosing Hammond. Great batsman but he made a great deal of runs against new nations in test cricket and also scored a bucketload in 1928/29 against a poor Australian attack in timeless matches. Not worthy of a place in the first XI, IMO.

 

[trundler]

Interesting people are choosing Hammond. Great batsman but he made a great deal of runs against new nations in test cricket and also scored a bucketload in 1928/29 against a poor Australian attack in timeless matches. Not worthy of a place in the first XI, IMO.

Averaged 70 in Australia.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I don't like the way Hammond made all those Dinosaurs come back to life and they ate people, that was irresponsible. I didn't even know he played cricket

 

[subshakerz]

Sobers

Imran

 

[subshakerz]

See in my alltime side, I tend to think this way but then I also feel Wasim will add more at that slot to the side than Imran. Imran is definitely the better cricketer and perhaps even the better bowler but the uptick in quality is not that high that it will devolve the other advantages of having Wasim - left armer, left hand bat etc. And if you need big runs from your #8 you are ****ed anyways. For a typical #8 role, I feel Wasim would add more to the side than Imran.

I think with the ATG exercise we are assuming they are competing against the strongest competition imaginable, meaning every run, including late order runs, count. Which is why I would have preferred Hadlee over McGrath too.

And I dont see Wasim being left-handed means much when you already have Sobers you can offer you variety in both pace and spin.

 

[honestbharani]

I think with the ATG exercise we are assuming they are competing against the strongest competition imaginable, meaning every run, including late order runs, count. Which is why I would have preferred Hadlee over McGrath too.

And I dont see Wasim being left-handed means much when you already have Sobers you can offer you variety in both pace and spin.

Are we saying all left armers are the same? So why do you need Imran when you have Marshall and Ambrose?

 

[subshakerz]

Sobers at 6
Imran at 8.

I figured Imran will be better coming on at first change instead of Hadlee, who is a new ball bowler. Imran will also get the ball reverse swinging so the team will have a weapon from overs 1 to 80.

Completely agree with this. Think Viv belongs at 5.

 

[subshakerz]

Are we saying all left armers are the same? So why do you need Imran when you have Marshall and Ambrose?

No but the main justification for having Wasim in the attack (his left arm variety) isnt as compelling if Sobers is already likely to bowl. Though frankly I think the left-arm thing is overrated.

Imran gives you reverse plus is the best bowling all-rounder ever.

 

[subshakerz]

I saw Sobers bat.He was better batsman for sure.
But Kallis matched sobers as a bowler,almost as a batsman and as a fielder.Cant be in different level if you don’t have much better stats in any of 3 departments.The stats don’t show sobers was in different level.
Kallis
13000+ runs at 55
292 wkts at 32
200 catches
Sobers
8000+ runs at 57
235 wkts at 34
109 catches
Doesnt look in different level.Sobers>=kallis.But not in different level or anything close to different level.

I think its important for an ATG team for all-rounders to be at elite level in their primary skill, and I think Kallis the batsman falls short of that.