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3rd Test at Melbourne - December 26 - 30

tony p

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A Marcus Harris masterclass, 20no at stumps.
Now locked up his place at the top of the order to I would think around 2027.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
The good folks on 5 Live are repeatedly describing England's performance today as 'disappointing'. One can only presume that they have somehow missed the last two tests, , indeed, the last two Ashes series in Australia. 50 ao would have been disappointing. 185 is surely what any sane person would have predicted from this shower. Probably above par in conditions where the opposing captain saw fit to insert them.
A wise man predicted England wouldn't score over 250 in this series (me). I'm a fair chance of being pretty ****ing close (yes I realise it's happened once, marginally)
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Serious question though, why are we so ****?
This probably belongs in the doom, gloom and recriminations thread. But basically it's a perfect storm of a **** domestic structure, **** coaching at county level, **** leadership. And it's probably going to get even shittier over the next few years.
 
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Bijed

International Regular
Probably belongs in

This probably belongs in the doom, gloom and recriminations thread. But basically it's a perfect storm of a **** domestic structure, **** coaching at county level, **** leadership. And it's probably going to get even ****tier over the next few years.
I think this is the tough bit - even if we do make some of the changes we need to, it'll take a while before it has the chance to start translating into tangible improvements and I'm worried that the powers that be won't have that kind of patience
 

morgieb

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The funny thing with England is that it seems like in terms of raw talent production is quite strong - they have arguably the best roster of ballstrikers in the world, and their collection of seamers seems reasonably strong. But their red-ball development seems a complete shitshow.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Was Root the last batsman to debut and average over 40?
Maybe Ballance

But yes, Root is the only decent batsman that we've introduced in the last 10 years. That's treating Stokes as an all-rounder rather than a batsman
 

social

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I like Robinson as a bowler but mid 120s in Australia ain’t it

Have seen him bowl quicker so maybe he’s sore, in which case he shouldn’t have played
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
I like Robinson as a bowler but mid 120s in Australia ain’t it

Have seen him bowl quicker so maybe he’s sore, in which case he shouldn’t have played
Sounds like he's knackered. As you said, he shouldn't be playing if that is the case.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Was Root the last batsman to debut and average over 40?
I did see a list today of top 6 batsmen England have debuted in the last 5-6 years. Only a few of them averaged above 30 and, aside from Stokes, it was rarely by much.
 

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