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Jadeja might retire

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
You utter imbecile it’s the one thing that actually stopped us getting sub 200 basically even match.
Try to look at the context of my post instead of writing a "gimme attention" post.

Since we need Jadeja in white ball cricket(where his impact is even bigger) and we have an alternative in tests, I was just looking at the pros and cons. Although Jadeja's averages 27 with the bat in the last 2 years. He has been nothing but an asset as an all-rounder with his useful contributions with both bat and ball(and in the field).

The issue lies here, does he fit in the top 7 of a batting line-up(in SENA) that consists of a misfiring Rahane, hit or miss Pujara and Kohli, and Pant who likes to play with full freedom and aggression? Axar or Ashwin won't be batting at 7 even if they do get picked, so they are out of this discussion.
 
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karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Jadeja isn't overrated lol.
He is not, I should have explained what I meant in a better way, I feel "sometimes" the management looks at him(over a specialist batsmen) even though we need some cushioning in the batting department.

Just to clarify, Jadeja is not overrated as a cricketer and has been an asset, the talk of his retirement to focus on ODIs came up and I was just looking at the positives that might emerge from that.
 

Xix2565

International Regular
He is not, I should have explained what I meant in a better way, I feel "sometimes" the management looks at him(over a specialist batsmen) even though we need some cushioning in the batting department.

Just to clarify, Jadeja is not overrated as a cricketer and has been an asset, the talk of his retirement to focus on ODIs came up and I was just looking at the positives that might emerge from that.
He's been averaging 40 with the bat for 4 years, he's hardly any more overrated than the likes of Rahane.
 

_00_deathscar

International Regular
Try to look at the context of my post instead of writing a "gimme attention" post.

Since we need Jadeja in white ball cricket(where his impact is even bigger) and we have an alternative in tests, I was just looking at the pros and cons. Although Jadeja's averages 27 with the bat in the last 2 years. He has been nothing but an asset as an all-rounder with his useful contributions with both bat and ball(and in the field).

The issue lies here, does he fit in the top 7 of a batting line-up(in SENA) that consists of a misfiring Rahane, hit or miss Pujara and Kohli, and Pant who likes to play with full freedom and aggression? Axar or Ashwin won't be batting at 7 even if they do get picked, so they are out of this discussion.
He's bigger for us in tests than he is in ODIs - what on earth are you on about?

We don't have a replacement for him in tests - not away from home for sure.

And the reason we play him higher up in batting is because our batting is ****, and they clearly don't trust our reserves (with good reason - especially once you get down to someone who can/would play #6 - I'd rather just play Jadeja who is basically as good, consistent, and can bowl and take up meme wickets and is a GOAT level fielder)
We should fix our batting, not worry about Jadeja being a 'problem', because he isn't.

Finally, you keep saying "top 7". Given that we play 5 bowlers, and away from home that means 4+1 or 3+2 at best, then clearly he's going to be batting 7.
 

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
He's bigger for us in tests than he is in ODIs - what on earth are you on about?
Name one guy who can replace him in ODIs. Axar is the only one that comes close but with the bat there is a massive difference, he can't provide a late order flourish like Jadeja did in Australia to bump up the score.
 

Xix2565

International Regular
Name one guy who can replace him in ODIs. Axar is the only one that comes close but with the bat there is a massive difference, he can't provide a late order flourish like Jadeja did in Australia to bump up the score.
Venkatesh Iyer? Early days though, and I don't think looking for Jadeja's replacement so quickly will really solve the ODI side's batting issues.
 

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Venkatesh Iyer? Early days though, and I don't think looking for Jadeja's replacement so quickly will really solve the ODI side's batting issues.
His military mediums are comparable to what Shankar bowled, surely you can't trust him to bowl 10 overs in an ODI for you. He is improving though and might get better in future.

And no, I am to saying we even need to look at Jadeja's replacement in the white ball teams.
 

Xix2565

International Regular
Anyway, I don't think his value in Tests is worth less than his value in LOIs, especially since he's a really good complete package now.
 

Apex Predator

State Vice-Captain
He ain't retiring that's a click bait news headline. Though I think selectors should restrict him playing ODIs & Tests only coz that's where he is most effective & he is getting injured quite frequently in a year or so. T20s meh.. Sundar can do the job with the ball.
 

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Just apologize and accept Jadeja
LOL, whom am I to accept or reject him. He is a great asset in any format. I was just looking at what could happen in case he is really thinking of retirement.

Although I do agree that my comment on him weakening the batting line up by being in the top 7 was wrong. If the top 6 batsmen are out of form, it's not Jadeja's fault. Rahane, Kohli and Pujara need to step up.
 

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, you might disagree with strategy of playing 5 bowlers (I too am somewhat unconvinced of that). But if that's what the captains decide, Jadeja is the best option to boost shortened batting line up.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
His military mediums are comparable to what Shankar bowled
bc do you even watch cricket? he rarely hits 140 every now and then, can regularly hit late 130s and prefers bowling in the mid 130s and use his variations in t20s

we don't know how he prefers to bowl in fc cricket
 

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
bc do you even watch cricket? he rarely hits 140 every now and then, can regularly hit late 130s and prefers bowling in the mid 130s and use his variations in t20s

we don't know how he prefers to bowl in fc cricket
Firstly, nothing wrong with being military medium if you have something else going on for you(swing, cutters,etc).

Late 130s? NO. He is in and around the 130 range with a shade of swing. His recent videos from domestic cricket are also up, you can watch them and see for yourself.
 

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