2nd Test at Adelaide - 16 to 20 Dec

[stephen]

One thing in England's favour here is that Australia will be less tempted to declare without 400 up.

 

[mr_mister]

we don't need an AR but it certainly helps. and, again, i just don't see the urgency to tinker with the side when there's very little in the way of standout batsmen being kept out in the shield

Maddinson for one has done enough to earn a recall. And I'd say has a greater than 50% chance at contributing more to the XI than Green upon return

There's not people knocking the door like in the 90s but there are still people who will potentially improve the side more than Green and for me that's enough

I don't doubt Green will play the whole series but it seems odds on hel get a couple of fifties max and 8-12 wickets

 

[Fuller Pilch]

The nailed on future ATG all-rounder Cameron Green is averaging 26 with the bat and 49 with the ball

Gonna take a massive effort just to get up to 33/28 set of averages let alone Keith Miller level

Wonder how much rope he gets if he takes a couple of 1 fers and fails again in the second dig

Don't worry future 22 year-old future ATG allrounder Rachin Ravindra is averaging 17 with the bat and 40 with the ball.

 

[halba]

No just Harris. Green needs to be coached a bit better.

Agree for now. As England isn’t a great test side in au and never has been.

 

[halba]

One thing in England's favour here is that Australia will be less tempted to declare without 400 up.

Aus shouldn’t declare until 420. They should go for it shortly.

400 is enough against England I think and also given the bowling quality in au conditions

 

[Gob]

Gill must be loving this

 

[Spikey]

just got back from the beach and shops, is redemption on the menu????

 

[OverratedSanity]

That ball was a throwback to 2011 vs India Broad jeez

 

[Gob]

Maddinson for one has done enough to earn a recall. And I'd say has a greater than 50% chance at contributing more to the XI than Green upon return

There's not people knocking the door like in the 90s but there are still people who will potentially improve the side more than Green and for me that's enough

I don't doubt Green will play the whole series but it seems odds on hel get a couple of fifties max and 8-12 wickets

Do you understand that Green bowls right

 

[Gob]

I'm just glad mr mister isn't a selector

 

[Daemon]

I've seen this one before too. Smith somehow bats with the tail for about two hours longer than he should, making a rapidly accelerating hundred and putting the game beyond us on a pitch that's doing a bit.

Wanker runs tbh, shouldn’t count

 

[TheJediBrah]

Not convinced Aus will have enough on the board to declare tonight and have a decent crack at the poms

 

[karan_fromthestands]

It’s not that he didn’t do well, it’s that he kept bowling rank full tosses. He can’t even land it on the pitch.

Leach got absolutely smacked around and didn’t even bowl that badly. Imagine what they’d do to Bess. He’s utter ****.

Didn't Leach get completely taken apart by Pant? There were patches where he looked absolutely terrible against India but he did pretty well. Also, being a left arm spinner helped him, just like it would have helped Bess in this game since the Aussies have so many left handers.

Bess crumbled under pressure against India, it was his first tour in totally different conditions and he didn't know what to do. Happens to a lot of young players. Why just write him off like this? And this thing with full tosses is blown out of proportion, he wouldn't have made it this far if he didn't knew how to land the ball.

 

[mr_mister]

Do you understand that Green bowls right

I know. I'm saying Green's bowling plus batting atm would still not equal what Maddinson could easily bring to the table if he played the rest of the series.

That's not a controversial statement either

 

[Shri]

Not convinced Aus will have enough on the board to declare tonight and have a decent crack at the poms

eng should be made to bat 40 mins before close regardless of what aus have on the board

everyone around the bat. burns will get himself out in 3 balls max

 

[Gob]

Not convinced Aus will have enough on the board to declare tonight and have a decent crack at the poms

450 no good?

 

[Gob]

I know. I'm saying Green's bowling plus batting atm would still not equal what Maddinson could easily bring to the table if he played the rest of the series.

That's not a controversial statement either

Haha he'll try to mow one over midwicket and get bowled and you'll be telling us that may be he wasn't good enough. Stick with something for a bit ffs

 

[TheJediBrah]

450 no good?

I guess so, but at Adelaide generally the longer you can bat first innings and keep the fielders out there the better. If you can could potentially get 550 first innings seems silly to declare on 450

Still think they should declare tonight to bowl under lights regardless but they should have been more aggressive so they had 50+ more runs IMO

 

[GIMH]

Australia clearly playing for the draw, very poor

 

[Gob]

I guess so, but at Adelaide generally the longer you can bat first innings and keep the fielders out there the better. If you can could potentially get 550 first innings seems silly to declare on 450

Still think they should declare tonight to bowl under lights regardless but they should have been more aggressive so they had 50+ more runs IMO

That was old Adelaide no. I don't think 500 plus was made many times in the post drop in/day night era