Most Underrated Cricketers in Cricket Chat

[Flem274*]

I made this argument about a decade ago, albeit not fully believing it. IIRC it wasn't one of my more popular ideas. Most people hated it.

the sehwag thread? i remember that. cw was different then, still in the transition phase from multi-quote theory to pewsian theory.

back then how sehwag and mathew hayden would go on a 1950s sticky wicket against malcolm marshall was very important to predict, and of course no assumption was made they would prepare themselves accordingly for such a drastic change from modern cricket. it was so dumb. peak internet poster stuff.

things are different now, mostly for the better, though the longevity value of pewsian theory has gone too far and needs to be curbed. ryan harris > brett lee etc.

 

[Gob]

the sehwag thread? i remember that. cw was different then, still in the transition phase from multi-quote theory to pewsian theory.

back then how sehwag and mathew hayden would go on a 1950s sticky wicket against malcolm marshall was very important to predict, and of course no assumption was made they would prepare themselves accordingly for such a drastic change from modern cricket. it was so dumb. peak internet poster stuff.

things are different now, mostly for the better, though the longevity value of pewsian theory has gone too far and needs to be curbed. ryan harris > brett lee etc.

Dont think anyone's doubting that

 

[Nikhil99.94]

Sf barnes
Bill o reilly
Harold larwood
Wally Hammond is a bit underrated too.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Proctor, Hadlee, Gavaskar, Akram, Kapil, Lillee, Barnes, Steyn, Donald

ODIs
Kapil, Lara, Watson, Donald

 

[NZTailender]

ODIs: Nathan Bracken

 

[Howe_zat]

Because nobody talks up Sunil Gavaskar, Wasim Akram or Dale effing Steyn??

This thread is like one of those Reddit posts where someone asks ‘what’s your unpopular opinion’ and the replies are about how they like sunshine and dislike people who kick babies

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

only 90s kids will remember this name: David Boon

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Because nobody talks up Sunil Gavaskar, Wasim Akram or Dale effing Steyn??

This thread is like one of those Reddit posts where someone asks ‘what’s your unpopular opinion’ and the replies are about how they like sunshine and dislike people who kick babies

Alrightr, alright. Would Adrian Shankar qualify then?

 

[honestbharani]

I think Ross Taylor is rather underrated here overall inspite of the huge kiwi contingent.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Lonwabo Tsotsobe

 

[nightprowler10]

Wasim being talked about more seems to be a recent thing, or at least I didn't notice it before. My recollection about Wasim always goes back to having to argue that Wasim being comparable to Gillespie was just a bad opinion. A lot of the discussion surrounding him lately has been subpar, but I'm happy to see my childhood idol being discussed. But before last year I'd have agreed Wasim was underrated around here.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Because nobody talks up Sunil Gavaskar, Wasim Akram or Dale effing Steyn??

This thread is like one of those Reddit posts where someone asks ‘what’s your unpopular opinion’ and the replies are about how they like sunshine and dislike people who kick babies

Sunshine is over rated.

 

[mr_mister]

Atherton. Said it many times before, but I don't think any other batsman in history had to face ATG bowlers in such a high % of tests as he did.

Three quarters of his career was facing peak or close enough to peak level Ambrose, Donald, Wasim/Waqar and McWarne

We talk the 80s up as an equally tough period for batsman as the 90s, but forget half the ATG bowlers were in one side

English bowlers were a respite for many of Atherton's peers, eg Lara and Steve Waugh, but of course Atherton didn't get to face them to succeed against them. Comfortably dealt with the kiwi and indian attacks when he got to play them

 

[subshakerz]

Saeed Anwar to me was the best opener of the 90s, but the posters here dont seem to give him the time of the day.

Younis Khan also doesnt get much love here.

 

[ataraxia]

Younis Khan also doesnt get much love here.

he's generally viewed as the GOAT Pakistani batsman here

 

[h_hurricane]

Atherton. Said it many times before, but I don't think any other batsman in history had to face ATG bowlers in such a high % of tests as he did.

Three quarters of his career was facing peak or close enough to peak level Ambrose, Donald, Wasim/Waqar and McWarne

We talk the 80s up as an equally tough period for batsman as the 90s, but forget half the ATG bowlers were in one side

English bowlers were a respite for many of Atherton's peers, eg Lara and Steve Waugh, but of course Atherton didn't get to face them to succeed against them. Comfortably dealt with the kiwi and indian attacks when he got to play them

That makes him a minnow basher isn't it ?

Interestingly, he only averaged 18 against SL. Vaas dismissed him 5 times in one series. Murali never dismissed Atherton ever.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

he's generally viewed as the GOAT Pakistani batsman here

No.
Many still rate Miandad as the best and rightly so.

 

[ataraxia]

No.
Many still rate Miandad as the best and rightly so.

Eh. I reckon Younis would win in a poll but perhaps that's just due to @trundler's fanboying of him dominating my perception.

 

[mr_mister]

That makes him a minnow basher isn't it ?

Interestingly, he only averaged 18 against SL. Vaas dismissed him 5 times in one series. Murali never dismissed Atherton ever.

Means the small time he wasn't facing the calibre of literal top 10-15 bowlers in history he faired well

He only faced SL 4 times but yeah did struggle.

 

[Zinzan]

Sf barnes
Bill o reilly
Harold larwood
Wally Hammond is a bit underrated too.

Good picks, although I do recall Hammond once being voted 3rd or 4th all-time batsmen in one of the 7659 batsmen polls.