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***Official New Zealand in India Nov-Dec 2021 Thread***

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Didn't expect much from Taylor (past it) or Blundell and Rachin (new) this innings, so we're exposed now. Pretty poor from Nicholls tbh.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
come on dude that's not what you said at the time is it.
Read again. I said the first session with the new ball and then a bit of reverse even with an older one was as good as it gets for seamers here. It does not mean the Indian seamers are suddenly better than Indian spinners on this track.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
come on dude that's not what you said at the time is it.
The point is that Southee and Jamieson took wickets because they're good bowlers - and not any other weird proviso like "this is the most conducive pitch they'll ever get" or whatever. Ashwin and Ajax have got wickets because they've bowled well. Ishant hasn't because he's bowled crap. Our spinners didn't take wickets because they're not as good as India's.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Read again. I said the first session with the new ball and then a bit of reverse even with an older one was as good as it gets for seamers here. It does not mean the Indian seamers are suddenly better than Indian spinners on this track.
Or simply:
- Southee and Jamieson get wickets because they are good bowlers who know how to extract the most from any pitch.
- NZ's spinners don't get wickets because they're not that good
- Ashwin and Ajax get wickets because they're very good bowlers
- Ishant doesn't because he's not that good and seems to have regressed in the last year or so.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Or simply:
- Southee and Jamieson get wickets because they are good bowlers who know how to extract the most from any pitch.
- NZ's spinners don't get wickets because they're not that good
- Ashwin and Ajax get wickets because they're very good bowlers
- Ishant doesn't because he's not that good and seems to have regressed in the last year or so.
1. I did not say Southee and KJ were not good bowlers. I actually said they bowled well to get those wickets.
2. Immaterial
3. So are Ishant and Umesh. Does not mean everyone will be threatening on this track.
4. Maybe. But these points are relative. The likeliest bowlers to get you wickets should be bowling more and in tandem. That was the point.
 

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