nzfan
International Vice-Captain
Nah I meant if Astle took a tap and it was too late to use him in the death overs why didn't they try another bowler mid inning? Save some of Southee or Trent or Lockie's overs for the death.
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***Official New Zealand in India Nov-Dec 2021 Thread***
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nzfan
International Vice-Captain
Saw some of the highlights, Guppy has taken his batting to a different level. As for the game I guess we were quite slow to start with and didn't use the powerplay, then at the end not scoring a bit more. I guess we were 20 short. 10 at the start and 10 at the end although Guptill made up with a bloody good knock.
Chappy also played some great shots once he was in. Definitely didn't look out of place for a first timer in sub continent.
Boult missed a sitter and there was couple of misfields. Very unusual for this side. The dropped catch probably cost us. Still understandable with all the travel, change in timezone and not enough time to acclimatize. Most probably were dazed.
I'm really surprised they opt to pick Ravindra if he was not going to be bowling. Tom Latham or even Blundell could have been a better shot if they only needed a batter. I guess plans would have been to use Ravindra as a spinner but then Southee is either not a captain (coming from ND I can understand) that trust spin or probably totally forgot he had more than one spinner in Ravindra and Chapman if he wanted to roll couple of overs.
Oh Phillips was done with an absolute beauty from Ashwin. He bowled the other ball.
Chappy also played some great shots once he was in. Definitely didn't look out of place for a first timer in sub continent.
Boult missed a sitter and there was couple of misfields. Very unusual for this side. The dropped catch probably cost us. Still understandable with all the travel, change in timezone and not enough time to acclimatize. Most probably were dazed.
I'm really surprised they opt to pick Ravindra if he was not going to be bowling. Tom Latham or even Blundell could have been a better shot if they only needed a batter. I guess plans would have been to use Ravindra as a spinner but then Southee is either not a captain (coming from ND I can understand) that trust spin or probably totally forgot he had more than one spinner in Ravindra and Chapman if he wanted to roll couple of overs.
Oh Phillips was done with an absolute beauty from Ashwin. He bowled the other ball.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
I must admit I thought of Chapman as more dynamic because he loves the scoops and other dinky modern shots, but that doesn't necessarily translate to high SR. So your post made me go check the Super Smash records; despite scepticism on T20 stats they all have a decent number of matches so it should mean something. And the results were surprising:
Chapman: 41 innings, 1153 runs at 32.9, SR 151
Phillips: 45 innings, 1075 runs at 26.2, SR 143
Seifert: 59 innings, 1410 runs at 26.6, SR 131
So Chapman's average is comfortably the best and has the highest strike rate.
edit: though still not a hit-from-ball-one type, needs to be in the top 5.
thierry henry
International Coach
Yeah so I was sort of right and sort of wrong. I thought of Chapman as being generally the *best* batsman of the lot but assumed he wasn’t rated so much as a middle order biffer, like the fairly specialised role Neesham plays. All the more reason to pick him more.
thierry henry
International Coach
Plus Seifert isn’t really either, which just emphasises my belief he never really earned the spot he has
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Tbf, this aligns perfectly with PEWS comment about Guptill bossing under-strength opposition attacks in jam LO games.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
Wonder how much of his spot is down to B McCullum pushing him …
Athlai
Not Terrible
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Batting 6 and not bowling, good use of a spot.
Apex Predator
State Vice-Captain
Can't wait for test series... India anyways wins gazillions of these random T20 bilaterals which ultimately don't matter at all.
India's test XI looks quite weak tbh on batting front for 1st test. Agarwal might be key player hence as he is nearly invincible at home.
India's test XI looks quite weak tbh on batting front for 1st test. Agarwal might be key player hence as he is nearly invincible at home.
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
Stead and Larsen still look after Tastle because of what Rahul Dravid said in 2017, I think.
Stuff
www.stuff.co.nz
He was the form bowler for New Zealand A, which included standout figures of 4-22 in a one-day match against India A. His deeds weren't lost on former Indian run-scoring machine Dravid, who labelled it among the best legspin spells he'd seen in Indian conditions.
Astle played with the man famously dubbed 'The Wall' for his staunch technique and ability to bat all day, during a 2009 first-class match for Canterbury.
"It was amazing to hear that. That was nice to have played alongside him and he remembered that, so he obviously knew who I was.
"To bowl that spell and get that type of feedback was great for my confidence going forward at that level. It's something I need to keep trying to replicate whenever I play."
One can imagine the conversations that Stead and Larsen are having about Rachin's bowling with Southee behind the scenes.
"Such a great kid. Respectful, great work ethic, learns so much and performs so well when we give him exposure to a higher level."
"Nah, not totally convinced, eh. Looks a bit fake and ghey as a domestic T20 batter so far, and isn't that supposed to be his big thing? As a spinner I'm told he just lets Michael Bracewell boss him around, never claps back."
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Flem274*
123/5
Yeah, surely if he misses selection for the sugar rush cricket next year he packs it in.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
Reminds me of Saqlain Mushtaq on Jeetan Patel: "I was saying to him, 'Watching you, I was feeling like I was having curry when you are hungry'. I had the taste in the mouth, the way he was bowling."Stead and Larsen still look after Tastle because of what Rahul Dravid said in 2017, I think.
Stuff
He was the form bowler for New Zealand A, which included standout figures of 4-22 in a one-day match against India A. His deeds weren't lost on former Indian run-scoring machine Dravid, who labelled it among the best legspin spells he'd seen in Indian conditions.
Astle played with the man famously dubbed 'The Wall' for his staunch technique and ability to bat all day, during a 2009 first-class match for Canterbury.
"It was amazing to hear that. That was nice to have played alongside him and he remembered that, so he obviously knew who I was.
"To bowl that spell and get that type of feedback was great for my confidence going forward at that level. It's something I need to keep trying to replicate whenever I play."
One can imagine the conversations that Stead and Larsen are having about Rachin's bowling with Southee behind the scenes.
"Such a great kid. Respectful, great work ethic, learns so much and performs so well when we give him exposure to a higher level."
"Nah, not totally convinced, eh. Looks a bit fake and ghey as a domestic T20 batter so far, and isn't that supposed to be his big thing? As a spinner I'm told he just lets Michael Bracewell boss him around, never claps back."