Finding out the best decade for test cricket: The tournament thread! 12 ATG XIs duke it out.

[Slifer]

Of course rain was a problem. But equally the West Indies often would only bowl 75 overs in a day. Many of their draws were 80 overs short and with those 80 overs they might have seen a result. The 90s WIndies brought Hooper into the side in part to get through those overs.

Here is what actually used to happen:

IND vs WI Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Mumbai, December 11 - 16, 1987

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, IND vs WI, West Indies tour of India 1987/88 at Wankhede Stadium, Bombay dated December 11 - 16, 1987.

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The test and ultimately the series was drawn. But not because of slow overrates. They literally lost an entire day due to inclement weather.

 

[Slifer]

Has anyone got the stats, or a Cricinfo article on how slow 80s Windies bowled?

I believe WI were definitely under the 90 overs in effect now. But guess what, those were the rules of the day. They were playing well with in the rules of the time. And lol fact of the matter is, few teams lasted 90 overs in any event.

 

[Victor Ian]

I believe WI were definitely under the 90 overs in effect now. But guess what, those were the rules of the day. They were playing well with in the rules of the time. And lol fact of the matter is, few teams lasted 90 overs in any event.

Tbh, I never noticed their slow overs, you were either out too quickly, or counting the minutes to the end of the day. Agreed about it being within the rules.

What I wonder is whether the quartet, playing now, would be as effective. I can't see why not. Over rates is just slackness most of the time. But maybe that little bit of time each ball helps the bowler be fresh for the next delivery. Dunno. It can only be a matter of a handful of seconds between each delivery, that we are talking about.

 

[mr_mister]

80s wins 10-4
00s wins 11-2

Onto the final!

1980s:

Sunil Gavaskar
Gordon Greenidge
Viv Richards
Javed Miandad
Allan Border
Imran Khan 3 *
Jeff Dujon +
Kapil Dev 5
RichardHadlee 2
Malcolm Marshall 1
Joel Garner 4

2000s:

Matthew Hayden
Graeme Smith *
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Jacques Kallis 5
Kumar Sangakkarra
Adam Gilchrist +
Shaun Pollock 3
Dale Steyn 2
Muttiah Muralitharan 4
Glen McGrath 1

 

[mr_mister]

I'm gonna vote 2000s.

The 80s top 5 feels like its batting stars are of a slightly higher ceiling than the 00s top 5 batting stars, but they have two less of them as Sanga and Gilly at 6 and 7 are far stronger than Imran and Dujon

The 80s OP tail is somewhat negated by Pollock

And while both bowling attacks are awesome the variety of a spin option means its the 2000s for me

 

[Coronis]

00’s

 

[ataraxia]

00s marginally

Not a terrible AT XI, these two combined:

Gavaskar
Greenidge
Ponting
Kallis
Viv
Border/Sanga
Gilly +
Imran
Hadlee
Marshall
Murali

 

[Slifer]

80s

 

[sunilz]

00

 

[trundler]

00s

 

[sunilz]

I know it is a difficult task but can someone add the batting and bowling average of both teams ?
For bowling average consider only top 5 bowlers.

 

[stephen]

The legitimacy of this exercise has been undermined by neither of the Bradman teams getting through.

Of the two lesser options, I'll take the 00s. Better bowling. Better batting. Easy decision.

 

[stephen]

I know it is a difficult task but can someone add the batting and bowling average of both teams ?
For bowling average consider only top 5 bowlers.

Why 5 bowlers? 4 is a better number since they will bowl 90%+ of the overs.

 

[sunilz]

Why 5 bowlers? 4 is a better number since they will bowl 90%+ of the overs.

Both Kallis and Kapil will bowl atleast 10 overs.

 

[mr_mister]

i'll do it in a sec

 

[stephen]

Both Kallis and Kapil will bowl atleast 10 overs.

Yeah and that means that the main bowlers will bowl 90%+ of the overs. Particularly in the 00s team where Murali will probably bowl 30 overs an innings.

 

[mr_mister]

80s batting average: 408.33
80s bowling average: 116.75
80s differential: 291.58


00s batting average: 428.44
00s bowling average: 123.07
00s differential: 305.37

 

[harsh.ag]

80s

 

[sunilz]

I have changed my vote . Gilchrist and Sangakkara being the key difference between 2 teams.

 

[mr_mister]

I have changed my vote . Gilchrist and Sangakkara being the key difference between 2 teams.

using this method the Bradman teams would look pretty damn good heh