2nd greatest living cricketer

[Spark]

Nah, from what I know of Cw when a former cricketer posts here, we're skeptical of their tall claims, and proceed to be be dicks to them until they no longer post here. Small sample size but that's how it usually goes.

That was mostly zinzan tbh.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Nah, from what I know of Cw when a former cricketer posts here, we're skeptical of their tall claims, and proceed to be be dicks to them until they no longer post here. Small sample size but that's how it usually goes.

JBMAC is made of sterner stuff IMO

 

[honestbharani]

that played cricket for his country without being dicks for a minute

...

JBMAC is made of sterner stuff IMO

I mean, dissing a late cricket legend is obviously ok...

 

[Coronis]

JBMAC is made of sterner stuff IMO

Thank **** for that, one of my favourite posters. You can see by a cursory glance at CC threads though why an actual international player would not bother sticking around tbh.

 

[TheJediBrah]

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I mean, dissing a late cricket legend is obviously ok...

Jimmy Neesham? dissing who?

 

[Shady Slim]

@JBMAC kept wickets for Australia, I think.

Spot JBMAC in this scorecard: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...alia-vs-england-1st-test-63220/full-scorecard

that's the sort of fighting not out that warrants a spot on @OverratedSanity's list of the best innings of x value... very very very very cool!

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Jimmy Neesham? dissing who?

A few people dissed Martin Crowe and didn't believe he was posting here.

 

[Burgey]

Much respect for JBMAC's opinion as always, though I would surprise the whole of the forum and personally vote for another Australian left handed batsman, TOTAB.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

pretty much both the best in their respective roles.

Hadlee, proctor and Miller arguably better than Imran.

McGrath arguably inferior to Akram, Marshall, Hadlee, Lillee, Steyn, Trueman.. Etc

 

[ankitj]

But what about poor fielding support for Imran?

 

[NotMcKenzie]

Hadlee, proctor and Miller arguably better than Imran.

McGrath arguably inferior to Akram, Marshall, Hadlee, Lillee, Steyn, Trueman.. Etc

No-one said it had to be a good argument, I guess.

 

[TheJediBrah]

McGrath arguably inferior to Akram

Oh this is new

 

[Himannv]

I’ve decided that Sobers is actually second.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I’ve decided that Sobers is actually second.

Yeah, hard even for such a legend to eclipse Sanga.

 

[trundler]

proctor arguably better than Imran.

Just. No.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I’ve decided that Sobers is actually second.

Me too. The revelation that Neil Harvey is still alive has had far reaching consequences for everyone.

 

[h_hurricane]

Hadlee, proctor and Miller arguably better than Imran.

McGrath arguably inferior to Akram, Marshall, Hadlee, Lillee, Steyn, Trueman.. Etc

 

[Red]

Hadlee, proctor and Miller arguably better than Imran.

McGrath arguably inferior to Akram, Marshall, Hadlee, Lillee, Steyn, Trueman.. Etc

Christ, give it a rest.

Procter was great but largely untested in tests.

Miller was “arguably” better than Imran but they played different roles. Miller bowled short sharp spells supported by 4 other bowlers while Imran was proper frontline.

McGrath isn’t “arguably” worse than any of the quicks you mentioned bar Mako who I consider him on par with.

Anyway, you’re arguing against your dumb original point which was McGrath or Imran are “overrated”. If you’re undisputedly in the top 1 or 2 of all time in your main discipline/role, you can hardly be “overrated”.

 

[Gob]

Christ, give it a rest.

Procter was great but largely untested in tests.

Miller was “arguably” better than Imran but they played different roles. Miller bowled short sharp spells supported by 4 other bowlers while Imran was proper frontline.

McGrath isn’t “arguably” worse than any of the quicks you mentioned bar Mako who I consider him on par with.

Anyway, you’re arguing against your dumb original point which was McGrath or Imran are “overrated”. If you’re undisputedly in the top 1 or 2 of all time in your main discipline/role, you can hardly be “overrated”.

I consider McGrath to be number 2 personally but I could live with people preferring Ambrose, Hadlee, Steyn and I know it's a hate crime here but Lillee ahead of him. Different people give different weights to different aspects and you can argue Ambrose bowled more killer spells, Hadlee carried his team more and Steyn could take the pitch out of the equation like no other. You also have to admire Lillee for coming back as a totally different bowler after all the injuries to be as effective as before.

Overall there isn't much among those guys. Marshall and McGrath tick more boxes

 

[CodeOfWisden]

5. Shane Warne (basically as good as Murali v. top 8 nations, can actually hold a bat, great slip fielder. Also, people don't really understand the flexibility and balance that an ATG leg spinner can give to a bowling attack. Turned matches on a dime, haterz can suck it)
6. Muttaih Muralitharan (the best specialist bowler)

If you do not consider Murali a chucker than there is no way that Warne is ahead of him.
Especially if you are considering both formats.
Murali is Mohammad Ali, Warne is Mike Tyson.
Murali has proved his superiority quite a few times, if we also consider the fact that he had no support there's no way that Warne can be rated higher.