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Is Moeen Ali the best ever test no-rounder?
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Fuller Pilch
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His record isn't that bad. Probably about average for an all-rounder, there would be plenty worse
The Sean
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Yeah, I must be one of the few in these parts who thought he was a bloody good cricketer. His batting fell away badly, of course, and he was always more of a support bowler than a number one Test spinner, but for several years there he added a lot of value to the team.
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Weird how his bowling was so effective against India but utterly useless against Australia
NotMcKenzie
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^ No. He's some way down the list 
Teja.
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I was going to say this but Shastri was a pretty high quality cricketer who would add value to most teams in history tbh. Feels harsh to call him a no rounder. He was more of a utility cricketer who could average 35-40 batting anywhere from 1-7 with the bat and also be a consistent holding spinner/fifth bowler.
He had 11 test centuries and 150+ wickets in 80 tests which is a sweet record.
Pup Clarke
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Vettori is definitely a better cricketer than Moeen Ali. Better spinner and more reliable with the bat
I think Moeen did everything he could as a bowler and probably surprised himself by how effective he was. Remember he was very much a part-time option for Worcestershire in the early years.
With the bat it's definitely a case of wasted potential. Delightful player to watch and capable of match-turning innings, but ultimately he didn't deliver anywhere near consistently enough
I think Moeen did everything he could as a bowler and probably surprised himself by how effective he was. Remember he was very much a part-time option for Worcestershire in the early years.
With the bat it's definitely a case of wasted potential. Delightful player to watch and capable of match-turning innings, but ultimately he didn't deliver anywhere near consistently enough
Dendarii
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Nicky Boje and Pat Symcox would be worthy challengers.
The Sean
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Ha, I didn't realise Boje had played as many as 43 Tests!
a massive zebra
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Khaled Mahmud must be the ultimate Test match no rounder. Moeen is streets ahead with bat and ball.
Starfighter
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Mooen certainly managed his share of influential performances for someone who turned in rather poor figures over a long career. Him twice diddling India at Southampton will forever be a highlight.
The amazing thing about Symcox and Boje is how seamlessly SA managed to replace someone who churned out rather crap figures with someone who was practically identical in that regard.
Pringle hardly even qualifies, considering he only averaged 15 with the bat. Never realised his record was so bad, only one fifty in thirty tests.
The amazing thing about Symcox and Boje is how seamlessly SA managed to replace someone who churned out rather crap figures with someone who was practically identical in that regard.
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The Sean
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Yeah, it's genuinely awful. A nominal Test all-rounder who was (at best) a barely middling bowler and effectively a tailender with the bat.
Starfighter
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The most amazing thing was the way they managed to spread his career fairly evenly over ten years. One of those 'oh we've got a spot to fill' picks.