The Endgame of Kohli

[Daemon]

Your face is viscerally repugnant to me

 

[Burgey]

Yep, if it isn't the best or most consistent path to success.

Something's not right, given he hasn't scored an international ton for nigh on 2 years. Is that technique, or is it where his focus is?

Yeah but what motivates you is different to where your focus is at any given time. Muhammad Ali was the greatest heavyweight of all time partly because he always fought for something more than himself. He looked outwards for inspiration and it worked for him. Marvin Hagler fought his whole life like he had a chip on his shoulder because boxing didn't respect him, and it worked for him (greatest middleweight of all time imho).

I think it's such an individual thing. Kohli's douchiness hasn't really changed from when he was scoring tons at will. Maybe being captain for so long has started to wear him down in terms of focus on his batting, mental fatigue etc. Maybe impending then new fatherhood has knocked his focus off kilter. I dunno that the fact he arced up at crowds/ is overtly passionate/ wankish is the reason he's plateaued recently.

I mean, he's averaging 50 odd over a decade or so long career. I wouldn't call that inconsistent.

 

[Uppercut]

Yep, if it isn't the best or most consistent path to success.

Something's not right, given he hasn't scored an international ton for nigh on 2 years. Is that technique, or is it where his focus is?

I mean he’s had an alright career.

 

[sledger]

Kohli is an overindulged mummy's boy from west delhi with the personality of a candy wrapper. To his credit, he's midwitted enough to understand the importance of droning the right words so you hear words like templates, team culture, outside noise, process and so on and so forth. Outside of the cricket field, his handlers have optimized him into the perfect marketable product where tropes about ''new India'' is forcefully identified with him.

All viscerally repugnant to me personally.

ngl, enjoyed this post a little too much

 

[OverratedSanity]

Outside of the cricket field, his handlers have optimized him into the perfect marketable product where tropes about ''new India'' is forcefully identified with him.

This really grinds me gears yes.

 

[SteveNZ]

I think it's such an individual thing. Kohli's douchiness hasn't really changed from when he was scoring tons at will.

This is a good point.

I don't know the guy that well, in terms of I've only really watched him in Australia and v NZ. I guess I just wanted to understand why that crowd baiting was part of his game. Each to their own, I suppose. I guess like Jimmy Anderson and how much of a knob he can be, it doesn't detract from what magnificent cricketers they are, but it does leave the slight stench of 'yeah, unreal cricketer....bit of a ****, though'.

 

[Shri]

maybe he points to the crowd booing him and gaslights the team into thinking the crowd is booing the whole team so we have to go out there and give them hell

idk

 

[Burgey]

This is a good point.

I don't know the guy that well, in terms of I've only really watched him in Australia and v NZ. I guess I just wanted to understand why that crowd baiting was part of his game. Each to their own, I suppose. I guess like Jimmy Anderson and how much of a knob he can be, it doesn't detract from what magnificent cricketers they are, but it does leave the slight stench of 'yeah, unreal cricketer....bit of a ****, though'.

Yeah this is a fair comment too. It's weird how people get themselves up for a stoush. TOTAB used to pick a fight with a fielder if he felt his concentration wasn't on, so he'd knuckle down and work harder. Other people are just happy enough in their own little bubble.

 

[Uppercut]

IMO Maradona is the best example of someone who needed haters to perform. When the haters weren't there he had to either imagine them, or do something to make people hate him. A lot of coaches used to operate by deliberately making enemies then using them as motivation for their players. There was a bit of that about Lehmann.

It's become very unfashionable. I think a lot of elite sportspeople now are driven by a kind of ubermensch complex. When players were driven by proving doubters wrong, undermining them was an effective management technique. Now it just blows up their personal "road to becoming a god" narrative and causes a kind of crisis.

I don't think the ubermensch thing has made its way into cricket so much though. Are there any cricketers openly motivated by their own flamboyant self-obsession in the way that, say, Cristiano Ronaldo is?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

IMO Maradona is the best example of someone who needed haters to perform. When the haters weren't there he had to either imagine them, or do something to make people hate him. A lot of coaches used to operate by deliberately making enemies then using them as motivation for their players. There was a bit of that about Lehmann.

This was the plot to The Waterboy

 

[Shri]

I don't think the ubermensch thing has made its way into cricket so much though. Are there any cricketers openly motivated by their own flamboyant self-obsession in the way that, say, Cristiano Ronaldo is?

this is what king kcunt is trying with his batting technique atm

or trying to at least

 

[nightprowler10]

IMO Maradona is the best example of someone who needed haters to perform

Have you heard of Michael "I'm-going-to-talk-**** about-my-middle-school-coach-who-cut-me-in-my-HOF-speech" Jordan?

 

[Anil]

yeah...as great a player as he was, so incredibly petty and vindictive...really difficult to like him as a person...

 

[sunilz]

Hope the news is true ?

 

[Uppercut]

Have you heard of Michael "I'm-going-to-talk-**** about-my-middle-school-coach-who-cut-me-in-my-HOF-speech" Jordan?

Did he ever celebrate a basket like this though?

 

[Shri]

Hope the news is true ?

yeah i am pretty sure keeping ashwin out wouldn't have gone down well with everyone at the top

can't imagine any other idiot back int eh day dropping kumble, who ashwin is better than as a spinner

 

[honestbharani]

can't imagine any other idiot back int eh day dropping kumble

 

[Shri]

he was an idiot yes

 

[honestbharani]

Hope the news is true ?

Dainik Jagran

Anyways, I honestly dont think split captaincy is the way to go. Virat needs to let go of captaincy fully as it seems to have finally impacted his batting returns. Rahane can take over in tests and see if that helps him rediscover his form. Rohit can do the job in LOs.

I think the coach change might give a change in captaincy too, esp. if we win WT20 and this England series, I kinda half expect Virat to quit captaincy on that high.

 

[honestbharani]

he was an idiot yes

But he also dropped Kumble.