Most Underrated Cricketers in Cricket Chat

[SillyCowCorner1]

Makhaya Ntini
Larry Gomes
Roy Fredericks
Joe Solomon

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Larry Gomes

Yesssss

 

[Shady Slim]

Drafters generally try to get the best possible side by the standards of CW (and I'd reckon that Shaun Pollock appears in a fair few draft-winning sides).

while true i still think that people who vote on the draft threads is, while significant, not always a wholly representative subset of CC

take burger as an example, major player in the CC sub but not at all involved in the draft sub. there’s many other examples however i just woke up from a nap on the train so i can’t think of any but ya get what i mean??

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Yesssss

He is a bada$$

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Herbert Sutcliffe, Neil Harvey, Gundappa Viswanath, Clive Lloyd, Elton John.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Most of those mentioned are overrated on here if anything IMO

Dennis Lillee

This is a good one though

 

[Line and Length]

Bob Willis, Dennis Lillee and Frank Tyson as bowlers.
Shaun Pollock, as all-rounders go, is underrated.
Kim Hughes and Dean Jones are underrated batsmen.

 

[TheJediBrah]

John Snow, as mentioned in the other thread

 

[Howsie]

Sehwag.

Yea everyone points to his home/Asia record, but the truth is he really lost it the last few years (including that horror year).

Here's his record up until end of 2010:
86 tests, 7,670 runs @ 54.01 at 82 S/R.
vs AUS: 17 tests @ 48.36
v PAK: 9 tests @ 91.14
vs NZ: 10 tests @ 44.41
v SA: 14 tests @ 53.41

Home bully you say?
in AUS: 7 tests @ 59.50
in ENG: 4 tests @ 39.50 (okay not great but not awful - it was to become awful later)
in PAK: 6 tests @ 91.50 (okay still subcontinent though)

He did have a horrible average in NZ and SA though.

All hindsight of course but if he had quit there and then, would he be rated much higher instead of clearly declining like he did?

Personally I always try and defend Sehwag’s record in New Zealand. In 2002 that entire series was played on green tops where nigh on everyone struggled to score runs, can’t hold that against him

Then in 2009 they played 3 tests on probably the flattest pitches ever seen in New Zealand. He was literally taking the piss, probably could’ve scored plenty on runs if he really applied himself.

 

[Burgey]

Kim Hughes and Dean Jones are underrated batsmen.

Not really on the Deano train so much, as I think he was a bit of a dead rubber specialist a lot of the time. examples like Adelaide 88/89 and Sydney 86/87 spring to mind, nws his epic in Chennai.

Certainly agree re Kim Hughes. The guy was a top player for much of his career. in an era where averaging 40 made you very very good, he was pretty much above that benchmark for all bar the last two series of his career, both vs WI at their best. Was terribly undermined as skipper by experienced players and ex-players in Marsh, Lillee and Chappelli. No wonder he eventually cracked.

 

[TheJediBrah]

When I was a kid I thought Kim Hughes must have been a bit of a dickhead because my dad told me he got fired because nobody liked him

 

[CricAddict]

I know he was pretty beastly in home conditions (and pitches in the 2000s were generally quite flat), but these are the openers who scored 1,000+ runs during Sehwag's "good years" before he fell off a cliff. To do what he did, at the strike rate he did it at, is pretty extraordinary.
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Has made the other aggressive openers like Gayle Jayasuriya Hayden etc. look like Pujara here.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Has made the other aggressive openers like Gayle Jayasuriya Hayden etc. look like Pujara here.

Sehwag never hit the first ball of a test match for a six.

 

[sumantra]

Personally I always try and defend Sehwag’s record in New Zealand. In 2002 that entire series was played on green tops where nigh on everyone struggled to score runs, can’t hold that against him

Then in 2009 they played 3 tests on probably the flattest pitches ever seen in New Zealand. He was literally taking the piss, probably could’ve scored plenty on runs if he really applied himself.

So what you are basically saying is, he couldn't score when the balls were moving and couldn't apply himself when the balls were not moving...that itself kind of sums up entire phenomenon called Sehwag outside Sub-continent...

 

[StephenZA]

Kallis
Steyn

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[Jayro]

Kevin Pietersen.

 

[sumantra]

Kallis
Steyn

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Kallis not sure, I would say Dravid is a bit underated here. Respected, yes, but underrated. Followed lots of Dravid-Ponting debate here and CC seems to have established daylight between the two. In reality though, who should be chosen depends entirety on the surface. In turning or swinging conditions, clearly Dravid. In pace and bounce, Ponting any day.

Steyn's name I see here pretty often. Just came to mind, Kapil Dev is not a bad shout. Again, following CC, it would seem there was daylight between him and Botham, actually though, it is not the case...

 

[ankitj]

Ravi Jadeja.

Yes. Wish we talked about him more on CW.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Kallis
Steyn

....

These 2 are worshipped on here. Steyn overrated if anything. Kallis probably doesn't get mentioned as often as he should, but when he is he's not underrated

 

[srbhkshk]

Dilip Vengsarkar, maybe not underrated, but very rarely talked about.