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***Official*** English Football Season 2020-21

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I shudder at the idea of 50+1. The idea of some of our fans having any actual control terrifies me to our core. We'd have 60 managers a season.
In reality , you have members at the top who are even elected or not who make all the decisions. It's a perfectly viable system as the Bundesliga maintains. You get a lot of nonsense from members of a Trust, they should have more say, but in actuality, Exeter have had no manager sacked since our Trust model started. That's from 2003.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
All it takes is the wrong trustees though. Have personally seen several charitable trusts go completely down the toilet due to the trustees being absolute pillocks.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Indeed, count the amount of sensibly well run clubs on two hands and you'll be struggling, you won't be struggling to find the same amount, massively in debt, and run like a basketcase.
Take this as a reply to both the quoted post and the other one you made. It's a fair point. I guess I am looking at it from the perspective of a club that, for all its faults and ability to inflict cruel misery upon me, is one of the best ran in the lower leagues by virtue of having fantastic owners. That being said those very owners have endeavoured to include both the Trust and the Supporters Club, making the heads of both Associate Directors and genuinely consulting with them. To me this way feels right and works, but I say that knowing its from a position of privilege
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
When he said the ESL was about saving football he meant it was about saving Real Madrid. It took a dodgy land deal with the council to save them a few years ago, now they want to piggy back off the Premier League millions.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Yeah it's a bit of a Wizard of Oz behind the curtain moment for the owners of the clubs. They've lost so much credibility and don't have anywhere near the leverage they thought they did.
I think events have shown that if some sort of breakaway were done properly, English clubs have tons of leverage given how things collapsed fairly quickly as soon as Chelsea folded.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah, the involvement of the Prem clubs was critical to the idea ever getting anywhere. The Premiership has waaaay more global reach, and is the waaaay most internationally watched football league in the world. Without teams from it the lucrativeness of any ESL-like venture would diminish massively.
 

Uppercut

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All it takes is the wrong trustees though. Have personally seen several charitable trusts go completely down the toilet due to the trustees being absolute pillocks.
What football fans are actually like is always a bit of an elephant in the room - everyone in the game speaks of us in hallowed tones when really our defining feature with respect to everyone else is how much abuse we scream at strangers during the average week.

Still, you'd definitely rather clubs were run by angry idiots who genuinely care about their team than by sociopathic idiots who don't.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Haha some fans are just deranged and anti-social (like people generally I guess) I remember some Brentford fan shouting at me when I was in the crowd at Griffin Park once.

I forget who Brentford were playing, but they were not playing well (I think they were 1-0 down about an hour in) and there was a moment where the winger on the opposition team had the ball by the corner flag, and three Brentford players were just stood there watching him, making no attempt to get the ball.

I shouted "Come on there's three of you there!"

Some berk about 10 yards away on the terrace turned around and shouted "there's actually eleven of them you ****!" at me.

Pothas and I looked at each other and started laughing.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Haha I had forgotten about this.

Reminds me of the guy that my Dad refers to as 'troubled.' If they don't shoot as soon as we are within 35 yards of goal then he gets very upset.
 

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