***Official*** English Football Season 2020-21

[Uppercut]

Also I don't think people will be particularly intimidated by "they've thought all this through, they know what they're doing" as a reason to not push back hard against them now.

Yeah it's a bit of a Wizard of Oz behind the curtain moment for the owners of the clubs. They've lost so much credibility and don't have anywhere near the leverage they thought they did.

 

[Spark]

I am curious as to how you'd legally implement 50+1 in the UK, especially with the PLCs like Man United.

 

[sledger]

I am curious as to how you'd legally implement 50+1 in the UK, especially with the PLCs like Man United.

Unlikely to be possible. More likely we'd see legislation that declared football clubs to have some sort of "special status", perhaps comparable to that given to listed buildings and historical sites, and then banned from doing certain things.

 

[Uppercut]

I am curious as to how you'd legally implement 50+1 in the UK, especially with the PLCs like Man United.

1. Create a partially fan-owned funding body
2. Implement regulations on the existing PLC that are so harsh that it immediately goes bankrupt
3. Have the fan-owned body buy the core assets (trademarks, stadium, etc) at fire sale prices
4. Have the other clubs vote the fan-owned body into the league where the PLC used to be

I.e. you couldn't, but I'm enjoying thinking of creative ways to try.

 

[GIMH]

I shudder at the idea of 50+1. The idea of some of our fans having any actual control terrifies me to our core. We'd have 60 managers a season.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Unlikely to be possible. More likely we'd see legislation that declared football clubs to have some sort of "special status", perhaps comparable to that given to listed buildings and historical sites, and then banned from doing certain things.

Yeah this is the way it will happen.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Enough of this rubbish about money laundering, it was never going to happen. More importantly Michelle (hot legs) Owen was at Home Park for her 7th game of the season yesterday. I've been once in over a year, and that was for a jab.

Anyway Inter and the other Madrid have officially pulled out. Yawns all around.

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah it's a bit of a Wizard of Oz behind the curtain moment for the owners of the clubs. They've lost so much credibility and don't have anywhere near the leverage they thought they did.

Do you think it would have gone differently with more teams, like PSG and Bayern Munich, also involved?

 

[sledger]

Do you think it would have gone differently with more teams, like PSG and Bayern Munich, also involved?

Unlikely imo. The involvement of the Premiership teams was always going to be critical to this getting off the ground.

 

[Uppercut]

Do you think it would have gone differently with more teams, like PSG and Bayern Munich, also involved?

I don't think Bayern or Dortmund could ever really have been involved, given their ownership models. According to Honigstein at The Athletic they weren't even told about the plans because they would have been so opposed to the project that they'd probably leak it. The 12 seemed to think that at some point German fans would want their clubs to join. There's not really any other way they could have been brought in.

It's kinda surprising that PSG weren't involved, and I don't think their involvement would have changed anything. If anything it might have made the project seem even dirtier. Nobody has any respect for PSG.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

PSG would've been involved if not for the World Cup.

 

[Uppercut]

PSG would've been involved if not for the World Cup.

Ah yeah I never thought of this but it makes complete sense.

 

[morgieb]

I'm interested as to why the likes of Zenit and Porto said no. Were they only asked once it got leaked?

 

[Furball]

I'm interested as to why the likes of Zenit and Porto said no. Were they only asked once it got leaked?

Zenit are bankrolled by Gazprom, who are a major Champions League sponsor.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

And Porto's model is based on developing competent players and receiving transfer fees from the big leagues. Not saying that wouldn't still be possible but it's probably better for them to play in a weaker domestic league to do it, and there might have been a risk in the transfer model being undercut when they were going outside FIFA.

 

[Pothas]

The we need this to keep the attention of younger fans thing is such an ECB line. Can't remember it being used in football before.

 

[sledger]

The we need this to keep the attention of younger fans thing is such an ECB line. Can't remember it being used in football before.

It's also just an utterly preposterous lie. The idea that young people are not interested in football is just so blatantly untrue.

 

[honestbharani]

It's also just an utterly preposterous lie. The idea that young people are not interested in football is just so blatantly untrue.

maybe they took u as the sample size

 

[sledger]

Unfortunately I only have the mental age of a young person

 

[Spark]

The we need this to keep the attention of younger fans thing is such an ECB line. Can't remember it being used in football before.

This has all felt very Giles Clarke now that you mention it