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*Official* 2nd Test at the MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai, 13 - 17 Feb 2021

Manee

Manee

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theegyptian said:
If the toss didn't matter wouldn't you expect a more 50/50 split of bat/bowl?

A few stats I've quickly compiled -

Since the start of 2010

Tests involving India in India - 3 (5.8%) out of 52 have bowled first
Tests involving England in England - 27 (37%) out of 73 have bowled first
Tests involving Australia in Australia - 11 (18.3%) out of 60 have bowled first
Tests involving Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka - 8 (16.7%) out of 48 have bowled first
Tests involving New Zealand in New Zealand - 40 (87%) out of 46 have bowled first
Tests involving South Africa in South Africa - 19 (35.8%) out of 53 have bowled first


Suggests India is more toss dependent than the other countries I've looked at. South Africa and England tend to offer a tougher choice at the toss between batting and bowling. You don't even need to look at the pitch in India to know you should probably bat first.



All of that being said the skills levels of the two teams is obviously a much bigger factor in determining the winner of the match than the toss. India have been dominant at home whilst losing the toss plenty. India are a much better side in these conditions than England.
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Good statistics. I think there is an interesting point in terms of perhaps choosing the right decision is always important but it is easier to know the right decision in India.

And then perhaps a more difficult to compile statistic of winning the toss vs result.
 
OverratedSanity

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theegyptian said:
Doesn't this go against your own argument?

Surely if the toss is irrelevant it doesn't matter if you bat or bowl first?
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No, it just means in general, the pitches favour batting first. Pitches in Eng/SA may favour either batting or bowling first but could be favouring either to a more extreme extent depending on the pitch on the day. SC pitches generally have less variety, that doesnt mean the advantage gained by the toss is more, its just more samey.
 
Senile Sentry

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India especially since 2015 has negated toss impact at home. They have lost a shitload of tosses.. esp in the 2016 series and yet won the series.
 
Shri

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honestbharani said:
And this pitch is reversing a lot, just like the first test.
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No it isn't. Surface isn't as hard on the ball either and the seam isn't coming apart after 30 overs. Very little help for the fast bowlers but I'd back anderson to extract more out of the circumstances than broad.
 
social

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sunilz said:
This pitch is rubbish because it favours spin bowling.
But WACA 90 pitches were heaven for cricket ?
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WACA was a great batting pitch with some legendary innings played there including one by a very young Sachin
 
sunilz

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social said:
WACA was a great batting pitch with some legendary innings played there including one by a very young Sachin
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This is also a great batting pitch if you are very good player of spin.
The only reason Eng got out cheaply is because Root was dismissed at very low score.
This pitch is no different than WACA of 90s. Players like Sachin, Smith, Lara, Root can score well on most of the wickets.
 
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