4th Test at the Gabba, Brisbane, 15 - 19 Jan 2021

[Shri]

almost 50 added after the 8th wicket was taken ffs

 

[honestbharani]

Thakur’s 3 balls were all miles over shoulder height and I don’t believe for a second that you can point me to any similar example from Cummins.

The law does not differentiate on the inches above the shoulder the bouncer has to be. And I have no qualms with the no-ball call, its the intimidatory bowling warning that was the **** call. You know, something you might have followed if you read our posts.

 

[cnerd123]

Why would players need to learn to play illegal bowling safely? You are already allowed 2 bouncers an over - or 6 relatively short balls if you prefer.

Law 41.6 as it is worded is to protect batters from bowling that is dangerous, but the way it is applied does not do that. A tailender is not going to get protected from 6 fast balls at his ribs/arms under this Law at international cricket, whereas at lower levels the umpires might enforce it.

The 2 bouncer per over rule is an ICC Playing Condition, not a Law of Cricket. So right now the guidance over how to apply Law 41.6 at Test level is based on ICC Test playing conditions.

If this is the case, I would rather they just say Law 41.6 does not apply at Test/FC level and revise the PCs so that the 3rd bouncer in an over carries the same penalties. Makes things less muddy.

 

[Spikey]

That's not actually true now. The relevant bit of the law:



There's definitely room for discretion there, someone recently bowled two in an over in the BBL and wasn't warned, let alone pulled, as they were well wide of off.

I've not seen much discretion shown by umpires, but I'll bow to this

 

[vcs]

almost 50 added after the 8th wicket was taken ffs

It's like we're happy to let the last 3 wickets add 60, and take it and run these days. I just want to see us firing out a lower order cheaply for once.

 

[Burgey]

Little bit of shape first up for Starc. FMD if they don't have a 4th slip in here I'll be filthy.

 

[cnerd123]

this is similar to my stance on the rule. it's quite insane that we apply the beamer rule to an insanely literal extent (every waist high ball is considered dangerous AND the previous leniency to slower bowlers has been taken away) but a bowler can literally aim a ball at the head, hit the head, and not be warned. the whole thing needs a re-write. what they end up with, I'm open minded to, but right now it's a mess

this has been revised recently btw. Umpires have discretion on which above waist-high full toss is 'dangerous' and which isn't. You can have leniency to slow bowlers again, as well as for very wide full tosses that are nowhere near the batter.

 

[Shri]

also whats going on here wrt the discussion on bouncers

anything happen in the match

 

[Spark]

also whats going on here wrt the discussion on bouncers

anything happen in the match

Shardul was warned for intimidatory bowling (not just a no ball) for bowling three slow, loopy bouncers way over Cummins' head.

 

[thierry henry]

The law does not differentiate on the inches above the shoulder the bouncer has to be. And I have no qualms with the no-ball call, its the intimidatory bowling warning that was the **** call. You know, something you might have followed if you read our posts.

So now you are saying you made decisive and correct marginal no-ball calls on random Cummins balls throughout the series? I assume all of these were from side-on replays? Mate you are talking absolute nonsense.

 

[Burgey]

also whats going on here wrt the discussion on bouncers

anything happen in the match

Thakur bounced Cummins and got warned for intimidatory bowling. Weirdly enough

And apparently Cummins off the park now. Got hit on the elbow earlier when batting, so the umpire was obviously quite right to protect our national living treasure from the big bad bully on dayboo

Edit: Cummins back on the ground. Probably just went for a tosca

 

[Shri]

Shardul was warned for intimidatory bowling (not just a no ball) for bowling three slow, loopy bouncers way over Cummins' head.

one of our bowlers was called intimidating? that too someone from our C team bowling line up?

we should be celebrating.

 

[Shri]

And apparently Cummins off the park now. Got hit on the elbow earlier when batting

shami and jaddu like this

 

[morgieb]

And apparently Cummins off the park now. Got hit on the elbow earlier when batting

Back on now. Might've just needed time to recover from batting.

 

[Starfighter]

I've not seen much discretion shown by umpires, but I'll bow to this

The 2000 code was more prescriptive, the language of the 2017 code is more open to interpretation.

 

[Burgey]

Cummins rightly gets a lot of wraps, but if anyone is going to run through India here I think it will be Haze. He's been crazy good this series so far.

 

[Spark]

Cummins rightly gets a lot of wraps, but if anyone is going to run through India here I think it will be Haze. He's been crazy good this series so far.

Yeah this is a Hazlewood pitch through and through.

 

[Shri]

wonder if any team uses sensory deprivation tank on its players to see how it affects recovery during test matches

 

[Starfighter]

wonder if any team uses sensory deprivation tank on its players to see how it affects recovery during test matches

Was this brought up on the commentary? Seems like a very random question.

 

[Starfighter]

And that'll be the end of the day's play.