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2nd Test at the MCG, Melbourne, 26 Dec - 30 Dec 2020

Spark

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stephen said:
Why are they talking about Smith, who is obviously woefully out of form and not talk about the lack of intent from every other Australian batsmen? Green has been in immense form in the shield, hits the Australian side and can't get it off the square. Wade has looked in good nick and has a top score of 40. Burns scored a 50 and three single digit scores. Head still has the same technical issues he's always had and now they're being exploited.

Smith is not the problem with this side. The batting coaching is the problem. The batsmen are going out into the middle with massive technical flaws, are being told to "grind it out" and are hitting a dozen runs at a strike rate in the 30s.

Being bundled out for less than 200 in two successive innings at the ****ing MCG is unacceptable for any Australian side ever. No excuses. It's time to find a new coach.
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i mean having your number 4 struggling to get to double digit scores, regardless of the rest of the approach, does indeed present serious issues for a test batting side.
 
Gnske

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I would attack these last two overs. Attack where they least expect it and play the Sun Tzu way.
 
stephen

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Spark said:
i mean having your number 4 struggling to get to double digit scores, regardless of the rest of the approach, does indeed present serious issues for a test batting side.
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Teams always have one or two players out of form. It always happens. It's a team sport and Smith not getting runs ships not preclude the other 5 batsmen from getting to double digits.
 
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stephen said:
Smith is not the problem with this side. The batting coaching is the problem. The batsmen are going out into the middle with massive technical flaws, are being told to "grind it out" and are hitting a dozen runs at a strike rate in the 30s.

Being bundled out for less than 200 in two successive innings at the ****ing MCG is unacceptable for any Australian side ever. No excuses. It's time to find a new coach.
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tbf a national team coach at Test level shouldn't be teaching players how to bat. They should already have a functional technique before they make it into the team. And don't Australia have a specialist batting coach? Or is that on Langer.

The lack of a gameplan is where you probably hold Langer to account. The players could use someone telling them how to make the most of their skillset against this particular attack. But then again, for all we know, they have plans but have just sucked at executing them.
 
Spark

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stephen said:
Teams always have one or two players out of form. It always happens. It's a team sport and Smith not getting runs ships not preclude the other 5 batsmen from getting to double digits.
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hey i don't disagree. i'm just saying that having your #4 be basically absent is a severe problem for most test sides, 3-5 is where you expect the bulk of your runs to be made most of the time.
 
stephen

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cnerd123 said:
tbf a national team coach at Test level shouldn't be teaching players how to bat. They should already have a functional technique before they make it into the team. And don't Australia have a specialist batting coach? Or is that on Langer.

The lack of a gameplan is where you probably hold Langer to account. The players could use someone telling them how to make the most of their skillset against this particular attack. But then again, for all we know, they have plans but have just sucked at executing them.
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It's the responsibility of the head coach. Batting coaches are for specific technical issues and fine tuning. The head coach sets the direction of the side. He's the one to hold to account.
 
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stephen said:
It's the responsibility of the head coach. Batting coaches are for specific technical issues and fine tuning. The head coach sets the direction of the side. He's the one to hold to account.
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he's definitely to blame for Australia's on field performances, but more along the line of lack of plans/strategies than the lack of execution. Sometimes you can have great coaching and plans but the players just suck and fail to deliver on the day. Dunnow who you can really blame for that.
 
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Niken said:
Cheats of the decade-

David Warner
Salman Butt
Cameron Bancroft
Michael Clarke
Steve Smith
Brad Haddin
Matt Prior
Faf De Plessis
Shahid Afridi
Mohammad Amir
Mohammad Asif

Coach - Darren Lehman
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Absence of Faf a genuinely poor selection here. Should be in as skipper. Been very consistent across the decade
 
stephen

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cnerd123 said:
he's definitely to blame for Australia's on field performances, but more along the line of lack of plans/strategies than the lack of execution. Sometimes you can have great coaching and plans but the players just suck and fail to deliver on the day. Dunnow who you can really blame for that.
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It's been a problem ever since he took over.
 
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