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***Official*** English Football Season 2019-20

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
I'm coming around to the idea of stopping the current season now and handing out the prizes based on current standings. No play-offs and the Cups being completed as pre-season matches before the next season starts. I've always been against it, not because of lawsuits or some poor dears being shafted, but because the chances of starting a new season in August as scheduled are slim and there's no way of knowing if next season might also be interrupted. So you could have two seasons struck from the record. I've been of the opinion that this season should finish come what may and next season and beyond adjusted accordingly.
However if they stopped now and handed out the prizes - The Greens are Going Up.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Seemed like they were moving towards the position of finishing the season but then there was something yesterday about finishing by the end of June. Hard to see how that would work.
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Seemed like they were moving towards the position of finishing the season but then there was something yesterday about finishing by the end of June. Hard to see how that would work.
I think that's because of player contracts. People are all thinking legally instead of humanitarianily (good word that).
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
The player contracts are only part of the legal issue. There are also sponsorship/kit supplier deals that are time sensitive, so it will be a real unholy mess if the season doesn't get done by the end of June.

I don't really see the humanitarian arguments for finishing the season before the end of June though. Seems to me that this could not really be done without risking the health of a lot of people, which doesn't sound humanitarian to me at all.
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
The player contracts are only part of the legal issue. There are also sponsorship/kit supplier deals that are time sensitive, so it will be a real unholy mess if the season doesn't get done by the end of June.

I don't really see the humanitarian arguments for finishing the season before the end of June though. Seems to me that this could not really be done without risking the health of a lot of people, which doesn't sound humanitarian to me at all.
From a humanitarian point of view football is irrelevant. But it's legal stuff that is going to stop decisions being made.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
No no, I genuinely do not get your point.

You appear to be suggesting we should not let legal issues get in the way of resolving what is fundamentally a legal issue.

I thought at first you were suggesting we should prioritise humanitarian considerations over those that are legal, which I would understand, but then a few posts ago you said humanitarian considerations were irrelevant.
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
No no, I genuinely do not get your point.

You appear to be suggesting we should not let legal issues get in the way of resolving what is fundamentally a legal issue.

I thought at first you were suggesting we should prioritise humanitarian considerations over those that are legal, which I would understand, but then a few posts ago you said humanitarian considerations were irrelevant.
My original post was a tongue in cheek response to my catching up with the thread and GIMH saying (presumably with a degree of tongue in cheek as well) that any decision that's made should be with Tranmere's league position taken into account.

Nowhere do I even remotely say that humanitarian considerations are irrelevant. I just explained why I thought the 30th June deadline had been fixed and that it was a legal issue and nothing else. Everything should be put on hold, including player contracts. But that decision can't be made without fear of legal implications. At a base level the idea of Tranmere or Plymouth running to the law courts because one has benefited and one has been screwed is wretched. But it's the sort of thing that will happen.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Ah ok, gotcha.

I don't think it's possible to create two boxes, and write "humanitarian" on one, and "legal" on the other, and put every issue in one or the other though.

The suggestion that contracts should just be "put on hold", for instance, is obviously a legal issue, but the prospect of a person being forced into some sort of employment against their will with no way of contesting this is troubling on many levels other than those that are strictly legal.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Should have been going to my penultimate game at Griffin Park. At it is I have probably been to the last one already.
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
I haven't ventured to Griffin Park since 1994. We lost 7-0. Though we didn't travel expectantly having lost 5-1 at home earlier in the season.
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Happy days. At a subsequent away game we lost 3-0 to Swansea and spent the 20 minutes we were kept in after the match singing "3-0, we only lost 3-0".
 

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