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***Official*** English Football Season 2019-20

Uppercut

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sledger said:
Yeah but come on, reading between the lines that's exactly what it is.
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That's exactly what it isn't. The origin of the policy was:

1. Government wants social distancing
2. But businesses that close for public health reasons lose out to businesses that put the public at risk
3. Furlough scheme allows businesses to close without either losing out or laying off staff

If the scheme only applied to businesses that are performing poorly, then it wouldn't work, because successful businesses would stay open and spread the virus. So they made it universal. It has nothing to do with bankruptcy protection. If that was the goal they'd have done something completely different.

Maybe it's becoming increasingly understood as a way of propping up businesses, and I can see the government adding in some means-testing so that that's what it becomes. But as of today it's definitely not what it is, either in letter or in spirit.
 
sledger

sledger

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Magrat Garlick said:
so it would be better if the players were furloughed too? :ph34r:

plus the fact that the owners are millionaires are a red herring. Virgin trains will be furloughing people by the thousands but it doesn't mean that the money to pay for that should come out of Branson's bank account
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It does imo. Bloke's a ****. :ph34r:
 
sledger

sledger

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Uppercut said:
That's exactly what it isn't. The origin of the policy was:

1. Government wants social distancing
2. But businesses that close for public health reasons lose out to businesses that put the public at risk
3. Furlough scheme allows businesses to close without either losing out or laying off staff

If the scheme only applied to businesses that are performing poorly, then it wouldn't work, because successful businesses would stay open and spread the virus. So they made it universal. It has nothing to do with bankruptcy protection. If that was the goal they'd have done something completely different.

Maybe it's becoming increasingly understood as a way of propping up businesses, and I can see the government adding in some means-testing so that that's what it becomes. But as of today it's definitely not what it is, either in letter or in spirit.
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Haha, I think you're giving a rather charitable assessment of the situation, but fair enough.
 
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sledger said:
Well, it obviously will differ from club to club, and the difference between clubs like Man Utd and Yeovil will obviously be massive, for instance. But the notion of a club with billionaire owners, for example, dipping into a pool of public funds to subsidise the wages of their non-playing staff (which, for arguments same, say the total value of is about £100k per week) whilst continuing to pay their players out of their own pockets (to a total tune of millions of pounds per week) will not sit well with a lot of people. Similar to millionaires who claim job-seeker's allowance and other unemployment benefits.
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This.

Heck, two unexpected meetings of minds in the one day.

It is the spectacle of billionaires effectively helping themselves to public money that really sticks in the craw. Perhaps the government can do something retrospectively about this abuse of a necessarily hastily cobbled together policy.
 
wpdavid

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For those of you who like this sort of thing, its David Squires' take on football's response to the current crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...n-blaming-football-and-joel-bats-for-covid-19

I particularly liked Kyle Walker's support for small independent traders and Roman Abramovic's transformation as St Francis, but there's plenty to enjoy here.

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Not least the 'Clap for Kyle Walker' comment somewhere underneath the cartoon.
 
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sledger

sledger

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News coming out RE: Arsenal's players refusing to take a pay cut if they do not qualify for the next CL (whenever that is).

Sounds like club could end up in a pretty precarious situation, in more ways than one.
 
Lillian Thomson

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wpdavid said:
Was that when he made the draw for the League Cup semi-finals?
Apart from that, was it a good watch?
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It was the League Cup Quarter Finals 1991. I had to Google his appearance having either not seen it before of having forgotten it.

It was interesting, but nothing much new. The fairly generic school boy genius goal scorer - what the hell am I doing in Italy - boo hoo I missed the World Cup Final - downward spiral into drinking. Then the resurgence of a new media career. I think he's currently very ill, so hopefully he'll pull through again.
 
cpr

cpr

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So it turns out, according to our neighbours, that our house was used as a stand in for Bobby Charlton's on some documentary/dramatisation about United. Going to have to bang through some of them to see if I can spot the place. Weirdly never got round to watching any of them before.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

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Spurs have scrapped their intention to scrounge tax payers money and are paying all staff in full.
Klopp’s brave soldiers are getting a nice long rest.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

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sledger said:
aye that was a good one

no doubt you were watching Malcolm MacDonald and his sideburns very closely
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Not quite. Plymouth 4 Swindon 3 in the afternoon and Lynne Wilcox in the evening. Though it was spoilt about 20 years later when I found out that she'd been tampered with previously.
 
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