The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[TheJediBrah]

MacGill is miles better than May, but it's Warne here. I'm surprised the team is as sensible as it is.

 

[stephen]

Clarke, Martyn and Hussey are all better choices than Mark Waugh.

Maybe. Maybe not. Mark Waugh was a lot better than hiss average suggests. He was instrumental in the 95 series against the West Indies (for example).

He was also in the side for a lot longer than Martyn or Hussey, which should count for something.

Having said that, I do think those guys were probably better than Mark Waugh. But it's not necessarily clear cut.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Pretty clear cut that Hussey was better. Or a moderate upgrade, if you will.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Who was Warne's drinking buddy?

 

[jimmy101]

Love Marto & Hussey but saying they're outright better than Mark Waugh is a massive stretch.

 

[CricAddict]

Who was Warne's drinking buddy?

Yeah, he has just gone on creating the team using this as the only criteria.

 

[TheJediBrah]

tbf Marto and Huss probably wouldn't go along with him to the bookies

 

[bagapath]

I'll be fine just with McGill coming in for May

Other possible improvements like Langer for Slater and Clarke for M Waugh are marginal imo. (I believe Clarke is slightly superior to Hussey)

 

[bagapath]

tbf Marto and Huss probably wouldn't go along with him to the bookies

You think Border would? ��

 

[TheJediBrah]

You think Border would? ��

No but Mark Waugh did

 

[jimmy101]

Sri Lanka 80's vs Zimbabwe 90's

Sidath Wettimuny
Roshan Mahanama
Aravinda de Silva
Roy Dias
Duleep Mendis
Arjuna Ranatunga
Guy de Alwis+
Ravi Ratnayeke
Rumesh Ratnayake
Somachandra de Silva
Ashantha de Mel

vs

Grant Flower
Neil Johnson
Alistair Campbell
Murray Goodwin
David Houghton
Andy Flower+
Heath Streak
Guy Whittall
Paul Strang
Eddo Brandes
Henry Olonga

Who would win this encounter in your opinion?

 

[honestbharani]

Make it a tri series with early noughties Bangladesh IMO.

 

[honestbharani]

80s SL with the edge in the batting but feel Zim can win a game in a 3 test series and draw the other two. You replace Guy Whittall with a better allrounder or batsman who can bowl (Blignaut? anyone else) then Zim for sure.

 

[jimmy101]

I feel that both sides have great strength in their batting, & both are pretty evenly matched with their batting.

Dunno if Bliggers should get in as he was more of a 2000's player. Bryan Strang might be a good choice to round out the bowling attack? He wasn't bad with the bat either. Alternatively you could select another batsman & have Grant Flower bowl a few overs. Stuart Carlisle would be a good choice if we were looking to bolster the Zim batting.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Make it a tri series with early noughties Bangladesh IMO.

Can't see them standing much of a chance tbh. The other 2 are hard to split though

 

[honestbharani]

BD in BD can give Zim a run for their money even with their early noughties side. SL would probably find it easier to beat that BD in BD than Zim. Overall, I still lean towards 90s Zim being the better side of the 3.

 

[jimmy101]

BDesh (pre-Shakib)

Javed Omar
Shahriar Nafees
Mohammad Ashraful
Habibul Bashar
Akram Kahn
Mashfiqur Rahim
Khaled Mahmud
Mashrafe Mortaza
Mohammad Rqfique
Shahadat Hossain
Enamul Haque snr

This one's a bit tricky to select. Aminul Islam, Rajin Saleh, Alok Kapali, Tapash Baisya & Manjural Islam are all unlucky. Manjural Islam Rana & Syed Rasel would have been good shouts but didn't play much Test cricket.

 

[jimmy101]

BD in BD can give Zim a run for their money even with their early noughties side. SL would probably find it easier to beat that BD in BD than Zim. Overall, I still lean towards 90s Zim being the better side of the 3.

Tbh I kinda neglected spin bowling when selecting SL & Zim. Not sure who I'd pick to partner Somachandra de Silva on a spinning Lankan pitch. Likewise, a spin partner for Paul Strang (outside of Grant Flower) is a tough call. Dirk Viljoen maybe?

 

[honestbharani]

It would have been so much better for world cricket in general, I feel, if Graeme Hick decided to play for Zim than England in the 90s.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Tbh I kinda neglected spin bowling when selecting SL & Zim. Not sure who I'd pick to partner Somachandra de Silva on a spinning Lankan pitch. Likewise, a spin partner for Paul Strang (outside of Grant Flower) is a tough call. Dirk Viljoen maybe?

Brian Strang bowling his off-cutters IMO

or some part time offies from Trevor Gripper