***Official*** India in New Zealand 2020

[cnerd123]

with hesson and neesham i've always wondered if the nerd who grinded his way into the respect of the jocks feels very insecure about the jock who can be a total nerd on a forum and still so hip he gets to do all the youth media stuff.

neesham doesn't exactly pull his punches on social media either, as shown in the sean plunket spray. the tendency to be so open about any opinion makes management types nervous.

Very few cricketers going around have the ability to go viral in the cricket memesphere the way Neesham can. Zampa comes to mind, Chahal tries really hard, and some of the West Indians have entertaining Instagram accounts. Broads comments on Instagram are great too. But it's a s group.

I'm hyped for the next gen of social-media savvy cricketers tho. Those Australian U19 boys could be a great source of amusement with some more political correctness training.

 

[Flem274*]

jadeja is the scariest player india have in their odi side.

i know in my head kohli is excellent, but jadeja batting or bowling you just think 'this **** is gonna ruin everything here'

 

[jcas0167]

Ian Pont on Jamieson's action.

My first look at Kyle Jamieson: Much of this is very good. He could pull more behind him in TP2 creating a longer, further arm pull (speed). Has a late pre-turn (rotation of back foot) meaning his doesn't align base to off stump when pulling... #INDvNZ #NZvsIND https://t.co/0iC6rGzfGs

Tends to have a lateral flexion (slight fall) on release in TP3 taking him off to gulley & creates potential hotspot in Pars Lumbar. Good alignment on follow through and shoulder rotation. A 'deeper' drive into TP4 with his top half would be helpful. But great! #INDvNZ #NZvsIND

 

[Flem274*]

just read about southee going off the field to have a vom between spells. that is a champion effort to be in the game let alone put in his best odi performance for a long time.

 

[Grasshopper]

jadeja is the scariest player india have in their odi side.

i know in my head kohli is excellent, but jadeja batting or bowling you just think 'this **** is gonna ruin everything here'

And his fielding ain't too shabby, either.

 

[SteveNZ]

I think it's probably just some time-honoured middle-class and working-class friction, that one with Neesham and the commentators. Working-class people who've risen a little bit above their initial strata like Hesson, McMillan and Doull do feel they can take out their own insecurities pertaining to class by chipping away at the foppish middle-class environmentalist kid for any bungling they see, in a way they will tend to shy away from with a simpleton who grew up on a dairy farm in Waiotira (Southee).

Doully seems to be absolutely sweet with him (Jimmy).

The way Hesson and Macca talk about Southee as an 'elite trainer' and influence in the side, reading between the lines and playing a wee bit of a guessing game, it seems like Neesham might have been the opposite at times. When you're not putting in the yards and also putting yourself out on social media as he does, it opens you up as a divisive figure. I'm a Neesham fan incidentally, saw him start out at club level out of school and he always had that bit about him. Thought Doully did a nice analysis on him at the bowling crease the other day too, if he could get his release right he'd be a red and white ball threat with the pace and height he is able to generate. On the flipside, he does have the tools to be an effective death bowler because his release isn't spot on - does bowl a yorker from height that angles in and jams particularly RHers, can create angles away from LHers and does have cutters that work too. But he's not going to be a genuine red ball option or >35 over ODI force until he rectifies it.

 

[SteveNZ]

just read about southee going off the field to have a vom between spells. that is a champion effort to be in the game let alone put in his best odi performance for a long time.

Yeah, you could tell the way he walked off to 10 bum pats from all corners of Eden Park that it was a special effort. He bowled magnificently. Had the best ODI player of all time in layers on a flat one.

Such a bloody enigma isn't he. His peaks and troughs as an international player are about as vast as any player I can think of.

 

[honestbharani]

The big-hitting bowling all-rounder phase of Jadeja is why Indian fans derided him for so long, because he was so bat at constantly hitting big. But this was hardly his fault, he started off as a top order batsman and even played at 4 for RR. Suddenly he was thrust into the finisher role in International Cricket as his first gig and had to learn on the job.

That phase of his career seems to have made him stronger though. Present day Jadeja has found a way to combine a innate ability to occupy the crease and work the ball around with dashes of calculated madness to be a fairly productive lower order batsman capable of scoring at a healthy rate.

Might not be the worst idea to trial him in the middle order actually.

Which is why I feel he should bat at 6 but someone should also have time to spend with him, at least during the IPL to improve his hitting range. Its not like he does not have the shots. He just does not go for it or favors hitting one side or one area of the park all the time which can be difficult in today's age when bowlers can immediately pick up those sort of tendencies. I really hope this IPL does something for him, coz he can be invaluable if he can improve his hitting range.

 

[googlyeyes]

I am just pleased that we have a 20 year old in the team with thinning hair already.

 

[vcs]

I am just pleased that we have a 20 year old in the team with thinning hair already.

We now know why...

 

[nzfan]

Tickener and Sodhi have been withdrawn from the NZ A team. They have now been sent to Mount to cover for illness of Santner and Southee. That was poor planning to send Sodhi off to NZ A game. Didn't think he was ever going to make the test side. He should have been with the squad all along.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Tickener and Sodhi have been withdrawn from the NZ A team. They have now been sent to Mount to cover for illness of Santner and Southee. That was poor planning to send Sodhi off to NZ A game. Didn't think he was ever going to make the test side. He should have been with the squad all along.

I guess with Astle retiring and Somerville injured, Sodhi is now second or third test choice behind Ajaz ... so he might be another injury away from playing the tests, which is scary.

 

[nzfan]

Sodhi bowled lots of hit me balls yesterday during the NZ A and India A game. The batsmen didn't have to take any risk to score of him. Went nearly at 5 an over. I seriously think Ravindra's bowling is top notch. To score of him at least the batters have to take all the risk. If Ravindra can grab few wickets in the Plunkett Shield or if NZ A can give him extended spell rather than couple or three overs in each spell he will go well. Even Firebirds bowled very less of him. Hopefully he will get up there in the pecking order and we never ever will have to worry about any test spinners in the near future. Ajaz is good but he has not bowled very well in the last 4-6 months. Santner and Sodhi if they play test cricket in the near future then god save us.

 

[Flem274*]

Tickener and Sodhi have been withdrawn from the NZ A team. They have now been sent to Mount to cover for illness of Santner and Southee. That was poor planning to send Sodhi off to NZ A game. Didn't think he was ever going to make the test side. He should have been with the squad all along.

i think he's in. in nz they obviously want a guy to bowl 10 overs a day to rotate the 3 quicks around with cdg as the stock bowler. obviously that 10 overs per day spinner needs to bat a bit to prevent the joke tail. so that leaves santner and sodhi with astles retirement.

 

[Flem274*]

have finally caught the 1 hour highlights

-jamieson isn't as slow as we thought. consistently 135kph at his height is fine.
-southee was bowling 5kph faster in this game. what an absolute trooper to bring his best performance while sick.
-the commentators going silent when neesham threw the ball at the stumps and hit iyer was hilarious

 

[thierry henry]

Speaking of spinners who can bowl 10 overs a day and bat #8 in a post-Tastle, Santner-sucks world...I have heard whispers that they are looking at McConchie. Based on his FC record (an occasional bowler, basically?) I hate the sound of this selection, but it's what a little bird told me.

 

[nzfan]

Speaking of spinners who can bowl 10 overs a day and bat #8 in a post-Tastle, Santner-sucks world...I have heard whispers that they are looking at McConchie. Based on his FC record (an occasional bowler, basically?) I hate the sound of this selection, but it's what a little bird told me.

T20 no worries but please no for one day or even worse test cricket. The man got smashed all over the park by India A last game. Shows he stands no chance.

 

[nzfan]

Ed Nutall just about to get a hundred. In bowling I mean, off 15 or 16 overs

I thought he's quite good, bowls with pace and has mean yorker. Canterbury up coming players right now are not all that flash. There used to be a time when we said if Canterbury cricket is in good hands then NZ cricket is as well.

 

[straw man]

jamieson isn't as slow as we thought. consistently 135kph at his height is fine.

Yeah he was good - certainly looked quicker than he used to look through the domestic cricket highlights too, so he may have added 5k. Still got a little movement away from the batsman at times, which is encouraging as many bowlers lose that when adding pace.

Overall think he's a pretty similar deal to Southee and could potentially have his job in a couple of years - he'll operate mid-130s in ODIs or with the new ball, but regular speed will be just 130 with a little swing and seam. Part of the NZ medium pace bowler canon. Optimistically, he could be an upgrade on Southee if he can use his extra height to get more surprise bounce out of a flat wicket or an older ball. He can bat a lot better too.

 

[straw man]

Speaking of spinners who can bowl 10 overs a day and bat #8 in a post-Tastle, Santner-sucks world...I have heard whispers that they are looking at McConchie. Based on his FC record (an occasional bowler, basically?) I hate the sound of this selection, but it's what a little bird told me.

They picked FOUR batsmen-who-bowl-part-time-spin in the previous NZ A match (Phillips, McConchie, Ravindra, Chapman) which does suggest they're thinking that way. Needless to say I also thinking selecting a batsman who bowls part timers to bat at 7 or 8 and be your only spinner is an awful idea.

Yet another reason why Astle retiring right now doesn't make any sense at all.