***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2019/20

[CharlesLara]

The gentle pace you cite averaged nine with the ball that year with over 50 wickets. NINE.

Still one of my most fond first class watching memories, Kane on debut batting in the near dark v a rampant Andre, then Andre giving a Marshall a serve at the other end for the perceived weakness of exposing a debutant to the light at the end of the day.

This was Auckland Cricket folklore. Everyone had heard about Kanes debut and the mood Andre was in. I remember Adams being at his PEAK in terms of bowling and was running through sides. I think Tuffey had a similar type season a couple years later where he was the best shield bowler by a country mile.

 

[Kippax]

Damn that Wagner. The last thing we needed today was him becoming an economical white ball man.

 

[Immenso]

8 spinners or part-time spinners in the NZA 11 today, and only 2 seamers.

 

[Flem274*]

haha wow rutherfords liking only having to face only two quicks who bowl faster than 130kph on a green deck. we're getting smashed and rance and wheeler are terrible death bowlers so this will get ugly.

 

[Flem274*]

hmm maybe it's not green and the light is just funny. rance is looking quite sharp today, not that it's helping. rutherford played the most awkward looking hook/pull thing to him. the ball isn't deviating an inch and seems to be coming on nicely. he looks set for a double and good time to do it with worker and rachin spudding it up and those beta internet nerds casting doubt on his nz A place.

 

[Kippax]

Hey 35 and out please, Chapman. Hopefully you were in Hong Kong or something and missed those primary school cricket protocols that are still afflicting the rest.

 

[Kippax]

Chapman's List A average hits 47, more like. But the worm has turned.

 

[Flem274*]

nicholls enjoyed a nz and nz A depleted sub 130 clicks buffet after the australian tour today.

wellington would be screwed here without conway who is probably facing the best attack of the round.

central are just getting slaughtered. did not need the tickner and ajaz call ups on top of the milne and bracewell injuries.

 

[Flem274*]

Chapman's List A average hits 47, more like. But the worm has turned.

haha yeah i mentioned in the tour thread this is impressive and he seems to score all around the ground now. there was even a pull shot.

 

[Kippax]

Haha what a dopey shot from Bocock. Nearly 10 overs to get 45 runs, but you just mindlessly hole out like that. Now Walker's gone and their WASP is 49%. Unfortunately I sort of rate Verma, Wags and Gibson as better than a typical 9-11, but we'll see how it goes.

 

[Kippax]

Ah squirts it away unconvincingly. Sharp to the chance of a third, Hampton wins the game. Wellington didn't even know they could win it with a three.

 

[Flem274*]

ben sears injured?

 

[Immenso]

ben sears injured?

Ankle, according to previous comments.

 

[Kippax]

Yeah still only batting and no bowling in yesterday's club cricket.

 

[Kippax]

Just a bit more here below on the silly Conway thing, that's dragged on and on. Maybe Cribbage can give me some far better examples of this precedent already being well and truly set by national boards elsewhere in the world, rather than my one of Tom Bruce turning out for Scotland A without any fuss. The ICC only wanted to keep Bruce out of fully-fledged ODIs.

 

[Prince EWS]

The most obvious example I can offer in how (almost perfectly) similar it was, was Pietersen playing for England A against India A three months before he was eligible to play for England.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-vs-england-a-england-a-tour-of-india-2003-04

I could posts other examples too but the ones I know off the top of my head all tend to have slightly different circumstanes -- associate nations involved in either the team or the opposition, or games that weren't against other A teams, or players just being named in squads but not actually playing etc. That one is a perfect collorary though, and the ICC don't seem to have changed the rules in any explicit way since then.

Even if they had, these games aren't for keeps. You could just as easily ask India A to play some games that the ICC shook their finger at and didn't count List A stats for if you really wanted to, not that I think you'd need to.

 

[nzfan]

I don't see why Rutherford isn't considered a serious candidate. He's been in very good touch this summer. Conway, you just have to tip the hat for this man. He's beyond run machine. I have no doubt now he will go really well for NZ in all formats. They are not going to pick him for As which is fine. Just get him over to the world cup later this year and don't dump him if he doesn't go well there. Chances are it may take a series or two for him to settle down at the next level but he needs to be persisted across all formats.

On a side note, outstanding win by NZ A vs India A. India A plays series' through out the year and barely drop a game. Beating India A with spin in New Zealand is no mean feat.

India A has played SL A, SA A, West India A and England Lions in full one day and test series. They haven't dropped a series against any of these sides and likely first loss since ages.

Our last A series was against India last year (barring one game against visiting England side). You see the gap in development and investment. No wonder India is at the top of the ladder now, they invest in their grass root. They don't play any T20s with India A because they have enough T20s being played in domestic cricket and IPL.

I've heard in the cricketing circle Rahul Dravid wanted series' against NZ A more frequently as he believes NZ A is the best side to test India A.

 

[Immenso]

A level cricket. The big 4 of India, Australia, England and South Africa have programs on another level to the rest.

Although I wonder if South Africa might be running out of money for this kind of thing.

The good thing about India, is they actually play us at this level. We've never played our closest neighbour in an A level 'test'. Not since those Emerging Player quad tournaments were scrapped in about the late Noughties have we had any contact with them at this sort of level. In slight fairness, we were crap at test cricket then and our Emerging Players teams we sent were rank.

In fact, also at U19 level, last September was the first time in 6 years we played Australia at U19 level (in June 2013).

They are pretty crap big brother neighbours.

Also reflects the resources, and the ambition of NZC though. Those 6 years between playing Australia at U19 level. The only international U19 cricket NZ participated in were the ICC U19 world Cups and the ICC funded U19 quad tournaments a week before said tournaments, or if ICC paid for some minnows to visit us when we hosted the 2018 tournament.

 

[Kippax]

Yes I give a lot of thanks to Ollie White for getting NZ U19 back out on tour in a big way again. Sure, his Youth ODI average sits at 23.46 after 16 games, but where would they be without him.

The most obvious example I can offer in how (almost perfectly) similar it was, was Pietersen playing for England A against India A three months before he was eligible to play for England.

Didn't like this one. Pietersen was merely clearing ECB hurdles rather than ICC ones from 2000-2004, so not the best test of the ICC regs. Kieswetter has a Scottish mother, so another one that's not the best test of the regs.

Anyway, team is not out yet. Starts Thursday. I think sufficient waves were made for them to be making the enquiries they probably should've been making in the week after his 327*. If not last season's white ball finals, which were dominated by NZ qualifying players.

 

[jcas0167]

Just catching up on yesterday's Ford Trophy results and see Ben Horne hit 101 off 73 balls. The keeper-batsmen depth seems relatively good at the moment.