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DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread
- Thread starter Days of Grace
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Days of Grace
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No.22
Greg Chappell (Australia) 816
Quality Points: 756
Career Points: 60
Career/Runs: 1970-1984, 7110 (rank 46)
Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 51.82 (53.86) 45.30 (47.09) 53.93 (50.96) (rank 18)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1973-1977): 60.75 48.60 56.79 (rank 42)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 49.55 44.14 54.47 (rank 23)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 52.71 45.72 53.22 (rank 16)
Arguably Australia's most elegant batsman in their storied history, Greg Chappell would be ranked well within the top 20 test batsmen by most historians of the game. That he isn't in this exercise is due mainly to two factors. First of all, his two year hiatus from official test cricket during his peak meant that he lost many test runs (he scored 1415 runs at 56.60 in the World Series "Supertests" against the best bowling he faced in his career). Second, he only has the 42nd best peak record, and is thus a victim of the 20% weighting given to this measure. But he was remarkably consistent, his lowest adjusted average across 50 innings being 47.13. Like his great contemporary, Dennis Lillee, his record in the subcontinent is unproven, having only played 3 matches there in his entire career. Some may even look at his picking and choosing of tours as a stick to beat him with. But his lowest average across all four criteria is 49.55, which suggests that he may very well have been successful if he chose to tour more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8-SKA1T7S8
Greg Chappell (Australia) 816
Quality Points: 756
Career Points: 60
Career/Runs: 1970-1984, 7110 (rank 46)
Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 51.82 (53.86) 45.30 (47.09) 53.93 (50.96) (rank 18)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1973-1977): 60.75 48.60 56.79 (rank 42)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 49.55 44.14 54.47 (rank 23)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 52.71 45.72 53.22 (rank 16)
Arguably Australia's most elegant batsman in their storied history, Greg Chappell would be ranked well within the top 20 test batsmen by most historians of the game. That he isn't in this exercise is due mainly to two factors. First of all, his two year hiatus from official test cricket during his peak meant that he lost many test runs (he scored 1415 runs at 56.60 in the World Series "Supertests" against the best bowling he faced in his career). Second, he only has the 42nd best peak record, and is thus a victim of the 20% weighting given to this measure. But he was remarkably consistent, his lowest adjusted average across 50 innings being 47.13. Like his great contemporary, Dennis Lillee, his record in the subcontinent is unproven, having only played 3 matches there in his entire career. Some may even look at his picking and choosing of tours as a stick to beat him with. But his lowest average across all four criteria is 49.55, which suggests that he may very well have been successful if he chose to tour more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8-SKA1T7S8
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sunilz
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Greg Chappell is batting version of Ravindra Jadeja. As I have said earlier on this forum , he didn't face quality spin bowling in Asia , never faced WI pace quartet in WI.
I don't give much weightage to his WSC record because it was played in AUS. I have no doubt that all of Sehwag, Hayden ,Ashwin , Jadeja, Warner , Anderson or Jayawardene will dominate in WSC if it were played in their home countries.
I don't give much weightage to his WSC record because it was played in AUS. I have no doubt that all of Sehwag, Hayden ,Ashwin , Jadeja, Warner , Anderson or Jayawardene will dominate in WSC if it were played in their home countries.
OverratedSanity
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Heh, was expecting him and border to be top 15.
OverratedSanity
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Has to be chanders. I think dravid and ab will be higher. They both had amazing peaks and much better away records.
morgieb
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Yes he did. WSC also had SuperTests in the West Indies.....
sunilz
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He faced Marshall and Garner in WI . That is a news to me. Scorecard please.
Burgey
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What an awful, ignorant post.
ataraxia
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Marshall isn't a member of the classic Windies quartet.
sunilz
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Sometimes truth is awful and ignorant. He scored total 450 runs in Asia and 235 of those were in match in which neither Imran nor Qadir played. Other 66 runs were in SL.
Sorry but I don't rate him as high as many in CW do. He simply wasn't tested enough against quality spinners in Asia. Just like Jadeja's bowling average his batting average is inflated.
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sunilz
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Marshall to WI bowling was like McGrath to Aus bowling. If you performed well against ATG WI/ AUS team then bowling attack must contain these 2 players imo.
Burgey
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Truth, unlike your earlier post, is by definition incapable of ignorance. Though it can, like said post, be truly awful.
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ataraxia
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This is like saying Hashim Amla isn't an ATG because he didn't score runs against McGrath because he didn't play him.
Burgey
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So therefore he gets marked down because Marshall wasn’t picked to play against him, or hadn’t come along yet?
Burgey
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Chappell isn’t my favourite Australian player at all, and there are reasons I don’t rate him as highly, which I’ve been through before. But this is just junk logic.
I mean, I mark gavaskar’s record down here because he never did well against a decent attack here, but Fmd I don’t mark him down because he retired before McGrath came along (McGrath would have owned him, of course, but that’s not the point here).
I mean, I mark gavaskar’s record down here because he never did well against a decent attack here, but Fmd I don’t mark him down because he retired before McGrath came along (McGrath would have owned him, of course, but that’s not the point here).
honestbharani
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Greg Chappell was very highly rated by his peers, surely that's gotta mean something. And listening to him talk about batting as a commentator/coach/analyst does indicate he has a very good grasp of the art. I think this is a good position for him. Just seems to be a very bad person though, based on his coaching stints and incidents like under-arm. So will never really be a fan.
sunilz
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But if you said Amla did well against AUS team of 90s/2000s then that bowling attack must contain McGrath.
Marshall is the only bowler of WI ATG team of 80s who makes to almost everyone's AT XI . So if someone did well against WI team of 80s then that bowling attack must contain Marshall imo. You can disagree.
Once again my definition of WI pace quartet contains Marshall just like Aus great bowling attack in 90s/2000 contains McGrath.
sunilz
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Greg Chappell retired in 84. Marshall had peaked in 83. So it is not comparable logic. Also he played only 5 test in WI and averaged 48 . He played very few tests in lots of countries. I don't know how scheduling worked then . But he played only 9 test in Asia + WI . So my problem with rating him is small sample size in many countries. He belongs in top 30 test batsman but he certainly shouldn't be in top 20 discussion imo. I rate every batsman who are yet to come in this countdown ahead of him except Chanderpaul.