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*Official* England in South Africa 2019/20

Tom Flint

International Regular
I don't think it was above waist height. It certainly wasn't a beamer anyways. They were slower balls so dipped the 2nd one looked to be higher so the batsman ducked under it dramatically where he should have smashed it into the stands
 

Heboric

International Debutant
I don't think it was above waist height. It certainly wasn't a beamer anyways. They were slower balls so dipped the 2nd one looked to be higher so the batsman ducked under it dramatically where he should have smashed it into the stands
Nortjie is not 10 feet tall
 

BSM

U19 Cricketer
Yeah second one definitely wasn't above waist height. Fell to about stump level by the time it fell past him. No ball for that would have been an attrocious decision, almost as bad as the ball itself

Speed gun was weird for those two balls as well. Showed 87+ mph for each one when they were both clearly attempted knuckle balls on replay. Makes you wonder about its accuracy.

Only way for England to have a chance to win this one is to restrict SA to little more than a 250 lead and hope the batsmen contribute adequately this time. The pitch definitely isn't unplayable yet, and the speed through which the game is processing if anything helps England's chances a little bit. Was honestly a little suprised at Faf's appraoch which seemed to be to score runs quickly. The longer SA bat the worse the pitch inevitably becomes for the second innings. That's why it was crucial that Elgar went quickly
Batting for both teams has been generally pretty woeful to be fair. Even de Kock's 95 was pretty lucky, where he nearly got out to Root about 3 times (and was arguably out for that Stokes' catch.) Tomorrow should be an interesting day
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
South Africa losing to the likes of Sri Lanka at home won’t be an anomaly next year. Philander is irreplaceable, they’re one injury away from having Dane Paterson play, and batting is so weak. It’s coming on 1 year since Elgar and Markram put on 50 runs together and almost 2 years since they nearly had a 100-run stand. Last 5 opening stands have all been single digits.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Matches in RSA are just so much fun to watch. It does not help their batsmen but for a neutral viewer, its just so much fun.
 

trundler

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Yeah second one definitely wasn't above waist height. Fell to about stump level by the time it fell past him. No ball for that would have been an attrocious decision, almost as bad as the ball itself

Speed gun was weird for those two balls as well. Showed 87+ mph for each one when they were both clearly attempted knuckle balls on replay. Makes you wonder about its accuracy.

Only way for England to have a chance to win this one is to restrict SA to little more than a 250 lead and hope the batsmen contribute adequately this time. The pitch definitely isn't unplayable yet, and the speed through which the game is processing if anything helps England's chances a little bit. Was honestly a little suprised at Faf's appraoch which seemed to be to score runs quickly. The longer SA bat the worse the pitch inevitably becomes for the second innings. That's why it was crucial that Elgar went quickly
Batting for both teams has been generally pretty woeful to be fair. Even de Kock's 95 was pretty lucky, where he nearly got out to Root about 3 times (and was arguably out for that Stokes' catch.) Tomorrow should be an interesting day
Archer is consistently flattered by the speed gun readings. I recall he wasn't bowling particularly quick (or well) at some stages in the WC and it still showed him to be around 90 mph. Didn't look that quick at all.
 

trundler

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I also don't think it was a 15 wickets a day pitch. But hey, an English lollapse was to be expected. Weird how both Faf and KW got out doing dumb **** today.
 

BSM

U19 Cricketer
Archer is consistently flattered by the speed gun readings. I recall he wasn't bowling particularly quick (or well) at some stages in the WC and it still showed him to be around 90 mph. Didn't look that quick at all.
Logically, it would make sense for broadcasters to make up faster readings because it makes viewers more interested in the action. Of course, there isn't much evidence that it generally goes on, or at all, but I've never really considered to be that accurate. Sometimes you can just tell if someone is bowling fast or not
 

sphynx

U19 Debutant
South Africa losing to the likes of Sri Lanka at home won’t be an anomaly next year. Philander is irreplaceable, they’re one injury away from having Dane Paterson play, and batting is so weak. It’s coming on 1 year since Elgar and Markram put on 50 runs together and almost 2 years since they nearly had a 100-run stand. Last 5 opening stands have all been single digits.
And Australia is touring in 14 months with Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Pattinson and possibly young Green.

It’s conceivable Faf might be done by then as well.

They need to get their act together by then or it could be 4-0 whitewash territory.
 
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Flem274*

123/5
did archer actually show up or were his figures fortunate?

nice to see philander, jimmy and broad in the wickets
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I dozed off during SAs second innings. Curious to know how Rassie looked?
Looked dire first innings, then dropped a sitter in slips (albeit with a distraction).

He looked much more like the Rassie we're used to from ODIs in the second dig though. The way is pitch is playing and the game is going if he can end up with a 50 on debut he should be really happy with his batting efforts despite the first innings. That drop was so dire though.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Looked dire first innings, then dropped a sitter in slips (albeit with a distraction).

He looked much more like the Rassie we're used to from ODIs in the second dig though. The way is pitch is playing and the game is going if he can end up with a 50 on debut he should be really happy with his batting efforts despite the first innings. That drop was so dire though.
Haha, yeah I saw the first innings and the drop but good to hear he looked fine so far second innings.

I just dont want Bavuma to come back for him
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
No real loss given how poor he has been since the Australian series. Averages close to 30 in the past 2 years and under 30 this year. Walking LBW victim against the likes of Anderson and Broad. Needs to sort himself out.
 

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