*Official* New Zealand in Australia 2019/20

[GotSpin]

Cricket Australia dangled the Boxing Day carrot and we willingly obliged to whatever else they wanted.

I dont see any culpability on NZCs part. What they meant to do?

Who’s in charge of organising tour matches?

I mean, it’s more likely NZC wanted to save some money and thought England would be sufficient warm up

 

[Immenso]

Who’s in charge of organising tour matches?

I mean, it’s more likely NZC wanted to save some money and thought England would be sufficient warm up

Then why are we playing a warm down match next weekend?

 

[GotSpin]

Then why are we playing a warm down match next weekend?

I don’t know who made the decision. Do you?

 

[Flem274*]

a competitive england would have been much better than a warm up match against 12 year olds

 

[TheJediBrah]

I hope bowling 125kph half trackers and waiting for batsmen to get themselves out doesn't catch on. It's atrocious cricket. The medium-pace equivalent of a part-time offie bowling full tosses and waiting for catches on the boundary.

Who’s in charge of organising tour matches?

I mean, it’s more likely NZC wanted to save some money and thought England would be sufficient warm up

not this again. I don't think Aus have had a warm-up match on a tour to NZ this millennium. NZ have nothing to complain about

 

[Flem274*]

ok cheika

 

[Starfighter]

I hope bowling 125kph half trackers and waiting for batsmen to get themselves out doesn't catch on. It's atrocious cricket. The medium-pace equivalent of a part-time offie bowling full tosses and waiting for catches on the boundary.

I gained an understanding last night of just how tedious leg theory in the early thirties must have been to watch considering it was well... leg theory.

 

[GotSpin]

I hope bowling 125kph half trackers and waiting for batsmen to get themselves out doesn't catch on. It's atrocious cricket. The medium-pace equivalent of a part-time offie bowling full tosses and waiting for catches on the boundary.



not this again. I don't think Aus have had a warm-up match on a tour to NZ this millennium. NZ have nothing to complain about

Actually NZ lost the toss and that’s why they’re going to lose the series

 

[Flem274*]

was it starc who credited andre adams with helping him out a lot last week? it might have been haze actually.

this test excellent **** you from the constantly ignored auckland philander if so.

i think we need to steal him back.

 

[Yeah_Nah]

G'Day Gents,
So is Kane up for a patient double? I wouldn't mind something to watch tomorrow night.

 

[honestbharani]

TBF to NZC, they probably thought that 2 tests against England would have been a better warm up than what they could have potentially been thrown in Australia. Remember 500/1 last time? Finch makes a million. Latham and McCullum bowling before the match gets called off?

Problem is that they appear to have made Roadie McRoads to bat on at The Mount and Hamilton. Even if they’d had some sort of internal squad game for two days/nights with a pink ball? They did that before the England pink ball test IIRC.

Cricket Australia dangled the Boxing Day carrot and we willingly obliged to whatever else they wanted.

I dont see any culpability on NZCs part. What they meant to do?

i don't see the point in getting angsty tbh, nz could win 3-0 in india and england before touring australia and this or worse would still happen. just the way it is. some of it is mental, some technical. we're probably the world #4 in australian conditions but still the deserving overall #2 team because we're better than everyone except india at the other tours.

the schedule this summer was already tight, so i actually understand no warm up in this case since we crammed england in and tbh we expected that 12 months ago to be an actual test and not center wicket practice against a team spitting the dummy.

i didn't see a ball yesterday because i was busy but i listened to abc when i could. i like the plan of smash lyon to force them to overbowl the other 2 but once it was apparent he was on the money we probably should have switched to the attritional game that has worked for us against everyone else when we're losing.

really stoked to see southee taking wickets in australia. i didn't think he had this in him. i know he's tall but he's lost a lot of pace and carry (compare this summer to him bouncing sangakkara on a motorway for fun in 2012) and he's probably the slowest bowler to succeed in australia for a very very long time.

Who’s in charge of organising tour matches?

I mean, it’s more likely NZC wanted to save some money and thought England would be sufficient warm up

I am not talking about the lack of warm ups. I just don't think NZC should have agreed to this being a pink ball test. Australia played their last one as a D/N test and its obvious the kiwis are struggling more with the pink balls. I felt NZC could have asked CA to make all 3 day games. Australia have mostly hosted only one pink ball test in each of their seasons right?

 

[Starfighter]

I am not talking about the lack of warm ups. I just don't think NZC should have agreed to this being a pink ball test. Australia played their last one as a D/N test and its obvious the kiwis are struggling more with the pink balls. I felt NZC could have asked CA to make all 3 day games. Australia have mostly hosted only one pink ball test in each of their seasons right?

Two in 2016/17 (one against SA at Adelaide and Pak at Brisbane).

 

[honestbharani]

Two in 2016/17 (one against SA at Adelaide and Pak at Brisbane).

Okie.. Did not know that. But still, feel NZC could have done the Black Caps a favor here and negotiated a day game.

 

[GotSpin]

It’s not going to happen. CA love the day night format and rightly so. If NZC actually cared they should have prepared a practice match under lights

 

[vandem]

Actually NZ lost the toss and that’s why they’re going to lose the series

Who knows? If Melbourne is a flat pitch draw (a la Perth 2015) you are probably correct. If the MCG wicket has enough bounce and movement then Aussie quicks + Lyon were always likely to take enough wickets to win the 2nd and 3rd tests, so the toss here didn't matter.

 

[GotSpin]

So NZ should have just hopped back on the team bus after losing the toss?

 

[NUFAN]

a competitive england would have been much better than a warm up match against 12 year olds

There would have been decent players available. Especially if you had say a 2 dayer last weekend under lights.

G'Day Gents,
So is Kane up for a patient double? I wouldn't mind something to watch tomorrow night.

Yeah, nah

 

[vcs]

I can't believe this "toss decides everything" theory has made its way over here as well. It usually only pollutes tour threads of non Asian countries touring the subcontinent.

 

[honestbharani]

It’s not going to happen. CA love the day night format and rightly so. If NZC actually cared they should have prepared a practice match under lights

You do realize if NZC refused, CA can't do anything, right? They could have well decided to do a 3rd test V England at home and only played the Boxing and New Years' tests. Its all part of negotiations, which is what the board should be good at. If NZC were good enough, they would have worked out a way to not have this as a day night test which put them at a huge disadvantage given the other team just came off playing another day night test in the same country. Day night tests have not yet become that common and neither has the pink ball become that good that these things cease to be a factor. Maybe in the future we will reach a stage where day night tests are like day night ODIs but its not the case now.

 

[Starfighter]

You do realize if NZC refused, CA can't do anything, right? They could have well decided to do a 3rd test V England at home and only played the Boxing and New Years' tests. Its all part of negotiations, which is what the board should be good at. If NZC were good enough, they would have worked out a way to not have this as a day night test which put them at a huge disadvantage given the other team just came off playing another day night test in the same country. Day night tests have not yet become that common and neither has the pink ball become that good that these things cease to be a factor. Maybe in the future we will reach a stage where day night tests are like day night ODIs but its not the case now.

Pretty sure the away side can't refuse under the WTC.