The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Burgey]

So now it's again descending into 100 rabid Indians vs 100 hypocritical Australians. Peak CW.

If you don’t like it you can always leave.

 

[ataraxia]

Laker has a better looking record but Verity got the Don out more than anyone. Tich seems hard done by not to have played more tests.

I pick Verity because I think for players (especially English) pre-WWII FC figures are a key factor if the player hasn't played 50 Tests or so. Also Verity's a better batter slightly. It's all very close between them.

 

[ataraxia]

If you don’t like it you can always leave.

The thing is, this ATG thread is descending into ad hominem. It is my favourite thread here and now all it is is insults. Maybe we should start a new thread to clear this crap.

 

[Burgey]

You’ll be right mate. It’s how we feel putting up with your particular brand of whatever it is you do.

 

[ataraxia]

Eh. At least I actually accept when I am wrong. My tone should not be interpreted as aggressive with that statement. Bye. I will be back.

 

[h_hurricane]

How’s saying “100 rabid [anyone]” banworthy?

Well, you could take a dig at a poster's post or the poster himself in the worst case. Generalizing it and quoting every poster of that country is lack of respect for other nations. The poster who does it should not be allowed to post anything in the first place imo.

 

[Burgey]

What an extraordinarily woeful take. It explains much.

 

[h_hurricane]

What an extraordinarily woeful take. It explains much.

What an extraordinarily woeful response. It explains nothing.

 

[Burgey]

“Australian fans collectively pull their pud over Ponting” is disrespecting my homeland apparently, and whoever says it shouldn’t be allowed to post at all.

What a fragile flower you must be

 

[h_hurricane]

Says someone who goes missing when it matters the most, the World Cup Semifinal.

 

[Burgey]

They call me Kohli...

Lol was ruled out rather than missing voluntarily. Probably by virtue of some delicate flower.

 

[h_hurricane]

Either way not good enough isn't it ? Flower may appear delicate but it's thorns are quite sharp.

 

[Burgey]

It depends on how you look at things. If someone is available and plays but performs poorly, that’s on them. If they’re ruled out, you can’t decry their performance as they weren’t afforded the opportunity.

Unless you’re brain dead, in which case you might think it relevant.

Would certainly agree with you the flower in question is a little prick.

 

[_00_deathscar]

The Aussies eh - they can happily dish it out with snarky comments but can't take it.
Even when posts made are in jest/reference to their very own comments about 'mental fortitude' and alpha this and beta that and joking about Sachin having to face a billion people.

 

[h_hurricane]

It depends on how you look at things. If someone is available and plays but performs poorly, that’s on them. If they’re ruled out, you can’t decry their performance as they weren’t afforded the opportunity.

Unless you’re brain dead, in which case you might think it relevant.

Would certainly agree with you the flower in question is a little prick.

It is called "Good Riddance" in fact. When some one is not deemed good enough, he gets dropped. Now you could 2 things.

1. Work on your weakness and come back better. You would still be not good enough but might get a chance only to prove the world what they already believed true.
2. Do what you do always and go missing again when it matters most.

 

[Burgey]

This is revelatory. Truly your insight is astonishing. I shall henceforth join your circle jerk with the other hundred frothers.

 

[Coronis]

No room for Swann??

Note that wasn’t my 5, I was just commenting on it. Swann is certainly in the discussion, but I couldn’t personally see him higher than 5th.

1. Jim Laker
2. Hedley Verity
3. Derek Underwood
4. Charlie Blythe
5. Greame Swann

Blythe an interesting choice, not a cricketer I know a lot about.

 

[Coronis]

Burgey, if you really have such issues with the mods, I’m sure there’re better places to discuss it than a cricket thread. All you guys over the past few pages please just go and make another thread where you can tear at each other so some of us can actually talk about cricket here.

 

[Chrish]

Can mods take a leaf from Pakpassion and delete whole last 10 pages?

 

[honestbharani]

Which of the people from your time of watching cricket will you qualify as ATGs?


For me, it is...

Lara
Sachin
Dravid
Ponting
Warne
Murali
Ambrose
Steyn
McGrath
Wasim
Sangakkara
Kallis
Donald

This is the list I have off the top of my head.. unsure if I m missing anyone. And I have not included currently active players.