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Roy’s spot at the top should not be in doubt

Tom Flint

International Regular
Dropped catches are no one's fault but the fielding side, however, the lbw howler is all on the umpire.

I say that even though I know ***** will pop in here and say how hard it is to be an international official.
If only there was a way that the fielding side could question an umpires decision and get the call overturned ?
 

Burgey

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If only an umpire, who's standing in the best spot to adjudicate and, you know, do his job, could actually do the role they're paid for. The umpiring this series has been appalling, and frankly it's kept England in the series.
 

TheJediBrah

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If only there was a way that the fielding side could question an umpires decision and get the call overturned ��
God I hate hearing this excuse ever since DRS came in.

"hurr if they didn't review it then it's their own fault that the umpire made the wrong decision"

so dire
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Roy took a whack in the nets yesterday and is being assessed for concussion. A net bowler and he was wearing a neck guard so probably not too serious.
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
Lyon is standing in basically the same position as the umpire if anything 5 yards closer so if he doesn't insist on a review then it's his fault
 

Starfighter

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Lyon is standing in basically the same position as the umpire if anything 5 yards closer so if he doesn't insist on a review then it's his fault
He's not standing in line with the stumps, and when you're bowling you're moving. If you've played and umpired even a tiny bit of cricket you will know this makes a pretty damn big difference.

Nothing dire about it at all
It is moronic. Subsequent bad decision making neither justifies prior bad decision making nor does it make it less wrong. All you're doing is shifting the blame onto the victim for making an error in trying to rectify something from a much less favourable position than the person who made the original mistake.
 

TheJediBrah

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Lyon is standing in basically the same position as the umpire if anything 5 yards closer so if he doesn't insist on a review then it's his fault
I respect you doubling down on your conviction and not taking a backward step. That's a very alpha trait, despite the fact that your initial conviction is utter idiocy
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
He's not standing in line with the stumps, and when you're bowling you're moving. If you've played and umpired even a tiny bit of cricket you will know this makes a pretty damn big difference.


It is moronic. Subsequent bad decision making neither justifies prior bad decision making nor does it make it less wrong. All you're doing is shifting the blame onto the victim for making an error in trying to rectify something from a much less favourable position than the person who made the original mistake.
He's a spinner mate the position they normally end up in in their follow through is pretty still with their chest facing the stumps. If you think they don't have a good view of an lbw they are appealing for then God help you
 

wpdavid

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Starfighter

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He's a spinner mate the position they normally end up in in their follow through is pretty still with their chest facing the stumps. If you think they don't have a good view of an lbw they are appealing for then God help you
Further proving you are ignorant. The ball heading down eighteen or so metres at 80 km/h still takes a bit under a second to get down there. Hard to judge a reasonably complex trajectory in that time even with a spinner's follow through. Secondly, he was bowling from around the wicket which is a wide angle well out of line with the stumps, there's a reason umpires stand in line with the stumps and aren't doing extraneous physical activity when watching the ball. I'm guessing you think it's easy and you would never get it wrong.
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
Hang on, didn't this all start after someone was saying how awful the umpire was and all the blame is on them? All I've said that if the umpire gets it wrong that horribly wrong then Lyon is in a good enough position to ask for a review. I never said nothing is easy ffs
 

Compton

International Debutant
Can only assume this potential concussion for Roy is a result of a dramatic misunderstanding of an instruction he needs to use his head more, like Steve Smith.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
It's obviously the umpires fault, but Aus have been quite poor on DRS thus far in series. Tim nice but dim most likely the culprit.
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
The problem with this reviewing ability is that it really is a lucky dip thing with erratic umpiring. The cost of wasting an appeal can be huge and players who are all in the process of playing should not be having to play dice. We want good cricketers playing cricket rather than good umpires.
The umps should be able to call the review, rather than having to make a decision when they may have doubt and then being called incompetent as a result. Reviews should be called for any decision that is not easy, by the umps themselves, while cricketers should play cricket.
Blaming umpires for dubious decisions, or players, for that matter, is just missing the point that the Drs implementation is currently not using good technology without polluting it with a roll of the die first.
 

TheJediBrah

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It should be pretty obvious that no one on the field is in as good a position as the umpire for judging dismissals. That's why the umpire stands where he does. Even the keeper is moving around and has to be focusing on the ball's trajectory, and can't see directly in front of the batsman.
 

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