2nd Test, Lord's, London

[Malcolm]

Steve Waugh about Bancroft before the first test.

The one thing I have been amazed by is Cameron Bancroft’s short leg practice. I had a session with him the other day and I’ve never seen anything like it. I hit probably forty balls to him at close range, back in our day he might have caught ten of those. I think he caught 39. So if he plays, England beware because he’s the best short leg I’ve ever seen.

 

[aussie tragic]

I really hope that's not the reason to be selected over Harris though.

Bancroft has the 3rd lowest average of Australian openers in the last 100 years. His 27.8 is only just above Dyson and Darling who are in the 26's

 

[trundler]

2 trollower order recoveries in the same day. Happens more often than we think.

 

[aussie tragic]

2 trollower order recoveries in the same day. Happens more often than we think.

What is a "trollower order recovery" ?

 

[Cabinet96]

Woakes' short ball playing is one thing that could hold him from batting higher up.

 

[aussie tragic]

So if Woakes has concussion, who is his 'like for like', I guess Curran?

 

[trundler]

All this time wasting is making me into a boomer. Goddammit, these pansies with their soft helmets and tests.

 

[Uppercut]

Woakes' short ball playing is one thing that could hold him from batting higher up.

That used to be one of the most manageable weaknesses. You used to get a lot of guys who sucked at playing the short ball but almost never get out to it. But it doesn’t really feel that way any more.

 

[trundler]

Still the best English bat

 

[aussie tragic]

How did Woakes not know he hit that. It hit his finger ffs?

 

[MW1304]

That used to be one of the most manageable weaknesses. You used to get a lot of guys who sucked at playing the short ball but almost never get out to it. But it doesn’t really feel that way any more.

Just in a better era for fast bowling I think. More properly quick guys like Cummins who can exploit it.

Woakes was properly found out there.

 

[Cabinet96]

The people who think batsmen always know whether they've hit the ball are the same people who put Dennis Lillee in their all time XIs. We value their opinions too much.

 

[Uppercut]

That used to be one of the most manageable weaknesses. You used to get a lot of guys who sucked at playing the short ball but almost never get out to it. But it doesn’t really feel that way any more.

Might be because of Phil Hughes actually. People no longer think it’s fine to have a short ball strategy that includes getting hit a bit.

 

[Cabinet96]

But yeah, that was really bad. Basically one over of bouncing him and he played almost every delivery terribly.

 

[trundler]

If Bairstow shows up the rest of your batting lineup, there can be 2 conclusions:
The rest are **** and it's a road.

 

[aussie tragic]

Wade getting a little too serious with polishing the ball there...just saying

 

[Pothas]

Might be because of Phil Hughes actually. People no longer think it’s fine to have a short ball strategy that includes getting hit a bit.

People still get hit all the time though.

 

[Uppercut]

Just in a better era for fast bowling I think. More properly quick guys like Cummins who can exploit it.

Woakes was properly found out there.

Maybe, but there was a whole strategy for playing it that’s disappeared. Langer and Dravid come to mind as top order guys who mostly just copped it, but it was very common for tail-enders, especially when trying to bat out time.

We know more about concussion now too. That’ll have made a difference.

 

[MW1304]

I don't remember anything about his batting, but didn't Woakes score basically no runs out in Australia? Not sure if that was short ball problem specifically.

 

[aussie tragic]

Loving the plan to Archer, but has it ever worked to bounce the fastest bowler of other side lol