Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad.Actually I dont think I rate McGrath in the top 10 Australian pacers, I mean that puts him in the 4th XI. So more than likely I want my pace bowlers to have actual pace. ffs Shane Watson bowled faster than McGrath.
As for Steve Waugh, one of the most boring batsmen ever. Would much rather have Mark Waugh, Dean Jones, Kim Hughes and Greg Chappell fill my middle order
Yeah, I mean everyone had a right to an opinion, but this sort of opinion is dangerously poor.Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad.
That's the sort of stuff that had every pundit on here picking you as the future of CW. Basically nailed on the 3 best best players of the baggy green right there. Lillee was a great bowler and inspiration. I'm no longer the fan I was but no one can deny his courage, skill and greatness. McGrath was better though. I think people reckon he was boring because they can't appreciate his subtlety. His success can't just be put down to "accuracy and a bit of bounce". He was a smart bowler and you only had glimpses of that when he was miked up for T20 games and used Warner as an example as to how he worked over batsmen.Lower average in era where every noteworthy batsman has 10 runs docked off his average for having it too easy. Did it for longer and did it in more varied conditions. Simply was better. Look, this isn't even an argument. McGrath is probably the 2nd guy picked after Bradman, alongside Gilchrist. This is even before getting into things like % top order wickets. It's just that clear-cut. I love copying Lillee's action and he must've been a great competito AND he's one of the greatest fast bowlers but c'mon, McGrath is a rung above - only because he's absolutely elite tho.
I saw Doull hooping them around in Australia in broad daylight. You don't see that often. He'd go ok today.i dont think anyone here was seriously rubbishing lillee. i think most, like me, did it to antagonise aussie tragic because he was moaning.
i was being serious when i said any medium pacer could average less than 30 in the 70s/80s/90s though. simon doull would get carted around the park today.
Yeah, he could really swing the ball. I remember him bowling an over to Glenn McGrath. The first 5 balls were massive out swingers which McGrath could not anywhere near, but the last ball he learnt and bowled an in swing which got the outside edge and the wicket.I saw Doull hooping them around in Australia in broad daylight. You don't see that often. He'd go ok today.
You mean the bit where he states his opinion is clear cut and there’s no argument.That's the sort of stuff that had every pundit on here picking you as the future of CW.
About to take a trial separation of 60 days to start with...didn't drink at all between 96-04 (wife didn't drink) but since then 27 days been longest off it.
He made a couple of other since-deleted posts that made me want to lay off him as well. I don't want to repeat them because he deleted them, but as much I decided a while ago that arguing with him probably wasn't all the productive -- especially when he's accusing me of rigging my own rating system to produce weird results that will only make people think less of it -- I don't think being aggressive with him and calling him a drongo is really the best play either.This is a quote from a couple of days ago from an Off Topic thread regarding alcohol intake. Could be coincidence, but could also be a factor.
nothing wrong with a bit of confidence.You mean the bit where he states his opinion is clear cut and there’s no argument.
Yeh, most of the fast bowlers who played with or against him must be wrong. Only 5/8 fast bowlers name him.worth keeping in mind these rankings came along during a time where cw atg threads were basically worshipping conventional wisdom, crap opinions of blokes we would or do despise as commentators and extreme subjectivity and pining for bygone eras by posters themselves. this list was a welcome shake up of stale discussions.