1st Semi Final - India v New Zealand

[weldone]

Probably agree. But it's not all part of some anti-Pakistan conspiracy as our friend is making out.

Just poor planning on part of the ICC.

haha yes obviously

 

[weldone]

Google's pre match odds are India 74%

Though this changed from 67% yesterday. Not sure how they compute it.

My calculated odds are 51.3% in favour of India lol. There's not much in it imo - just one early wicket (if India bats first) or a steady start in first 6 overs (if NZ bats first) and the match will tilt in favour of NZ.

 

[ankitj]

Your algorithm ought be gambhiring hard. Reduce those odds to 15%

 

[Athlai]

YOU KNOW THEY SAY ALL TEAMS ARE CREATED EQUAL. BUT YOU LOOK AT NZ AND YOU LOOK AT INDIOA AND YOU CAN SEE THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE! SEE NORMALLY IF YOU GO 1 ON 1 WITH ANOTHER TEAM YOU GOT A 50/50 CHANCE OF WINNING! BUT KANE IS A GENETIC FREAK AND WE'RE NOT NORMAL! SO YOU GOT A 25% AT BEST TO BEAT US! AND THEN YOU ADD TRENT BOULT TO THE MIX, THE CHANCES OF WINNING DRASTIC GO DOWN!

SEE THE SEMI FINAL AT OLD TRAFFORD YOU GOT A 33 1/3 CHANCE OF WINNING. BUT NZ HAS GOT A 66 2/3 CHANCE OF WINNING CAUSE ENGLAND AND AUSTRALIA KNOWS THEY CAN'T BEAT US AND THEYRE NOT EVEN GONNA TRY! SO INDIOA YOU TAKE YOUR 33 1/3 CHANCE MINUS OUR 25% CHANCE AND YOU GOT 8 1/3 CHANCE OF WINNING AT THE WORLD CUP. BUT THEN YOU TAKE OUR 75% CHANCE OF WINNING AND THEN ADD 66 2/3 %. WE GOT A 141 2/3 CHANCE OF WINNING THE WORLD CUP! SENOR KOHLI?THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU AT OLD TRAFFORD!

z

 

[weldone]

Honestly if Rohit Sharma gets out early, then we are very much ****ed because Kohli will have to go in full circumspect mode knowing he is the only hope left.

 

[weldone]

YOU KNOW THEY SAY ALL TEAMS ARE CREATED EQUAL. BUT YOU LOOK AT NZ AND YOU LOOK AT INDIOA AND YOU CAN SEE THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE! SEE NORMALLY IF YOU GO 1 ON 1 WITH ANOTHER TEAM YOU GOT A 50/50 CHANCE OF WINNING! BUT KANE IS A GENETIC FREAK AND WE'RE NOT NORMAL! SO YOU GOT A 25% AT BEST TO BEAT US! AND THEN YOU ADD TRENT BOULT TO THE MIX, THE CHANCES OF WINNING DRASTIC GO DOWN!

SEE THE SEMI FINAL AT OLD TRAFFORD YOU GOT A 33 1/3 CHANCE OF WINNING. BUT NZ HAS GOT A 66 2/3 CHANCE OF WINNING CAUSE ENGLAND AND AUSTRALIA KNOWS THEY CAN'T BEAT US AND THEYRE NOT EVEN GONNA TRY! SO INDIOA YOU TAKE YOUR 33 1/3 CHANCE MINUS OUR 25% CHANCE AND YOU GOT 8 1/3 CHANCE OF WINNING AT THE WORLD CUP. BUT THEN YOU TAKE OUR 75% CHANCE OF WINNING AND THEN ADD 66 2/3 %. WE GOT A 141 2/3 CHANCE OF WINNING THE WORLD CUP! SENOR KOHLI?THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU AT OLD TRAFFORD!

z

Do not drive.

I repeat. Do not drive.

 

[SteveNZ]

My calculated odds are 51.3% in favour of India lol. There's not much in it imo - just one early wicket (if India bats first) or a steady start in first 6 overs (if NZ bats first) and the match will tilt in favour of NZ.

I'd suggest that if this game was played 10 times over, India would win at least 8 times. Making the odds of 51.3% very low. There is a significant amount in it. And the great thing for you is, even this desire to play down India's chances in the seeking of comfort should the near-on impossible happen and they do lose, or whether it's for superstition/non-jinxing sake...none of us play the game. Even if I say NZ will definitely win, and my negativity bias suggests every time I've said that, we've lost, it's irrelevant because 22 guys playing will have no idea I ever made the post.

A neutral would tell you India are so heavily favourited it's not really worth a bet, because your money won't go very far. NZ can win, absolutely they can. But we would have to shake off the gently softly approach we've carried in the last 3 games especially and take it on like there's nothing to lose, because very genuinely there isn't really. And you'd have to suggest that India would also have to play well below their best.

 

[Athlai]

I'd suggest that if this game was played 10 times over, India would win at least 8 times. Making the odds of 51.3% very low. There is a significant amount in it. And the great thing for you is, even this desire to play down India's chances in the seeking of comfort should the near-on impossible happen and they do lose, or whether it's for superstition/non-jinxing sake...none of us play the game. Even if I say NZ will definitely win, and my negativity bias suggests every time I've said that, we've lost, it's irrelevant because 22 guys playing will have no idea I ever made the post.

A neutral would tell you India are so heavily favourited it's not really worth a bet, because your money won't go very far. NZ can win, absolutely they can. But we would have to shake off the gently softly approach we've carried in the last 3 games especially and take it on like there's nothing to lose, because very genuinely there isn't really. And you'd have to suggest that India would also have to play well below their best.

By my calculations if they were to play this game 10 times over, NZ would win at least 14 times.

 

[BSM]

They use YouTube comments to decide. A lot of overconfident Indians on there. I’m surprised none of them Ghambir.

Tbf confident/arrogant indian fans are pretty much omnipresent on digital and social media platforms. Really quite fascinating sometimes to look at the comments on a random tweet that might only be subtly related to India at all, or on a youtube video (England's yt channel is pretty much a cesspit for it iirc) and see them going out of their way to tell people that their team is the best, or rather that the other ones suck.

 

[Flem274*]

There is a reason Pakistan are World Champions and teams like England, SA and NZ are not

the opposite as true. if you look at nations like nz and sa, you will see they are true great nations of sport. dominant in a few, and reasonably good in everything we do. nz has about 3 people living here, but despite this we are indisputably superior to the rest of the world.

the reason is our x factor and mental strength. we don't blame anyone but ourselves when we lose, and losing is never acceptable. the penalty for losing a rugby world cup is crucifixion.

there is a reason pakistan have just the one lucky rain affected fluke win, and that is because when life gets tough they either spot fix or play the victim.

actually no wait, they spot fix and then play the victim, like mohammad amir.

nz is the greatest nation on earth, and as a boon god chose to open the heavens on that fateful day in a nation where it never rains in june to avoid a possible, not certain but possible, speed bump against india. then we, you know, actually beat the likes of the west indies and the rest is history.

 

[weldone]

I'd suggest that if this game was played 10 times over, India would win at least 8 times. Making the odds of 51.3% very low. There is a significant amount in it. And the great thing for you is, even this desire to play down India's chances in the seeking of comfort should the near-on impossible happen and they do lose, or whether it's for superstition/non-jinxing sake...none of us play the game. Even if I say NZ will definitely win, and my negativity bias suggests every time I've said that, we've lost, it's irrelevant because 22 guys playing will have no idea I ever made the post.

A neutral would tell you India are so heavily favourited it's not really worth a bet, because your money won't go very far. NZ can win, absolutely they can. But we would have to shake off the gently softly approach we've carried in the last 3 games especially and take it on like there's nothing to lose, because very genuinely there isn't really. And you'd have to suggest that India would also have to play well below their best.

You are either overrating all Indian batsmen not named Rohit or Virat, or underrating NZ pace attack to a great extent.

And anyone who has observed my posting for some time knows that I don't believe in Gambhiring.

 

[Athlai]

the reason is our x factor and mental strength. we don't blame anyone but ourselves when we lose, and losing is never acceptable. the penalty for losing a rugby world cup is crucifixion.

We are so supremely talented at this that you'll find we even blame ourselves for losing when we actually won.

 

[Neil Young]

I'd suggest that if this game was played 10 times over, India would win at least 8 times. Making the odds of 51.3% very low. There is a significant amount in it. And the great thing for you is, even this desire to play down India's chances in the seeking of comfort should the near-on impossible happen and they do lose, or whether it's for superstition/non-jinxing sake...none of us play the game. Even if I say NZ will definitely win, and my negativity bias suggests every time I've said that, we've lost, it's irrelevant because 22 guys playing will have no idea I ever made the post.

A neutral would tell you India are so heavily favourited it's not really worth a bet, because your money won't go very far. NZ can win, absolutely they can. But we would have to shake off the gently softly approach we've carried in the last 3 games especially and take it on like there's nothing to lose, because very genuinely there isn't really. And you'd have to suggest that India would also have to play well below their best.

Well, that's put a dampner on everything...

 

[Agent Nationaux]

the opposite as true. if you look at nations like nz and sa, you will see they are true great nations of sport. dominant in a few, and reasonably good in everything we do. nz has about 3 people living here, but despite this we are indisputably superior to the rest of the world.

the reason is our x factor and mental strength. we don't blame anyone but ourselves when we lose, and losing is never acceptable. the penalty for losing a rugby world cup is crucifixion.

there is a reason pakistan have just the one lucky rain affected fluke win, and that is because when life gets tough they either spot fix or play the victim.

actually no wait, they spot fix and then play the victim, like mohammad amir.

nz is the greatest nation on earth, and as a boon god chose to open the heavens on that fateful day in a nation where it never rains in june to avoid a possible, not certain but possible, speed bump against india. then we, you know, actually beat the likes of the west indies and the rest is history.

Legend has it that all the rivers in New Zealand were formed from the tears shed by fans when Pakistan beat them in 1992.

 

[stephen]

I really hope NZ win. I want anybody but India to win almost as much as I want Australia to win.

 

[Greenlite]

England are NZ are the most undeserving of the 4 semi finalists by far. I hope Aus win their 6th.

No need to go to Oxford dictionary to find the definition of butt-hurt, here's one for ya all to see.

Btw AUS Sandpaper Duo having their ban finished right before the world cup, so deserving and a great role model for the kids around the world, along with Saint Amir, rooting for both - PRICELESS

Google's pre match odds are India 74%

Though this changed from 67% yesterday. Not sure how they compute it.

Pretty sure they just looked at our forum's poll and adjusted it. Oh, they must have noticed and agreed that NZ and ENG are totally undeserving to be in the semis to start with, therefore the moral thing to do is by bumping it up by 7%, remember, gamble responsibily

 

[Arachnodouche]

YOU KNOW THEY SAY ALL TEAMS ARE CREATED EQUAL. BUT YOU LOOK AT NZ AND YOU LOOK AT INDIOA AND YOU CAN SEE THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE! SEE NORMALLY IF YOU GO 1 ON 1 WITH ANOTHER TEAM YOU GOT A 50/50 CHANCE OF WINNING! BUT KANE IS A GENETIC FREAK AND WE'RE NOT NORMAL! SO YOU GOT A 25% AT BEST TO BEAT US! AND THEN YOU ADD TRENT BOULT TO THE MIX, THE CHANCES OF WINNING DRASTIC GO DOWN!

SEE THE SEMI FINAL AT OLD TRAFFORD YOU GOT A 33 1/3 CHANCE OF WINNING. BUT NZ HAS GOT A 66 2/3 CHANCE OF WINNING CAUSE ENGLAND AND AUSTRALIA KNOWS THEY CAN'T BEAT US AND THEYRE NOT EVEN GONNA TRY! SO INDIOA YOU TAKE YOUR 33 1/3 CHANCE MINUS OUR 25% CHANCE AND YOU GOT 8 1/3 CHANCE OF WINNING AT THE WORLD CUP. BUT THEN YOU TAKE OUR 75% CHANCE OF WINNING AND THEN ADD 66 2/3 %. WE GOT A 141 2/3 CHANCE OF WINNING THE WORLD CUP! SENOR KOHLI?THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU AT OLD TRAFFORD!

z

You must come from a highly educated university.

 

[Greenlite]

As a kiwi fan the players giving me nightmares would be Chahal and Shami, based on their recent NZ tour match ups. Kuldeep is not as scary as the first 3 games of the tour now, and Kumar is hittable for us.

 

[Greenlite]

If our odds of winning is 30%, wouldn't that mean compared to a 5 game series, where it's 0.3x0.3x0.3x0.3x0.3=0.243%???

30% is more than 100 times more likely than 0.24%, therefore our chance of winning just increased by more than 100 times.

Here's the swagger and confidence that we don't deserve, but what we need

 

[TheBrand]

Law of averages suggests that Rohit is unlikely to go big for the 4th game in a row right? RIGHT?!?!