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Tendulkar is selfish

Ruckus

International Captain
I personally define selfish as headbutting someone and getting a red card just because you were pissed off, and denying your country a World Cup. :ph34r:
He put the world ahead of his country in order to take down a greasy Italian. Selflessness at it's finest.
 

CWB304

U19 Cricketer
Rubbish. He should play on for as long as he likes - so long as he continues to be worth his place in the side. If his form dips and the selectors feel someone else could do a better job then I'd expect someone to have a quiet word to spare him the indignity of being dropped.
 

doesitmatter

U19 Cricketer
1) There is that commercial angle as well.Corporates have huge money invested in his name pressurising him to stay.
2) BCCI wants him to stay as they know he is still the demi-god among the masses. If his name is there on the team sheet that match is watched by more on telly , more people come to the ground which basically helps the BCCI to strike big TV deals. IPL matches involving him consistently has the highest rating. BCCI knows IPL as a brand will have some respect as long as SRT is there atleast in India.
3) Tendulkar knows only 2 players can catch him in terms of runs and centuries in TC i.e Ponting and Kallis. He will stay on till he is safe . My theory :)
4) If he is the one among top 5 batsmen in India i will take him even if he is on wheelchair and the ans to it is an emphatic yes
5) He is the BOSS (thats his nickname btw) and he decides when to go.

Wow..cannot imagine one-day he will retire..that balance 'n that classic strokeplay...that's the fanboy taking over :(
 
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bagapath

International Captain
Survival instincts of individual species help the whole community

Sportsmen selfish in terms of achieving more and more (not those who take money to underperform or those who fake illnesses before big games) help their teams win more matches.

All great sportsmen, Maradona Bradman Tendulkar, were selfish. And it helped their teams that they chased personal glory within the context of the team.

Sports is all about ego. Survival. Testing Personal limits.

All great sportsmen are selfish.

Selfishness is good.
 

TheJediBrah

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Survival instincts of individual species help the whole community

Sportsmen selfish in terms of achieving more and more (not those who take money to underperform or those who fake illnesses before big games) help their teams win more matches.

All great sportsmen, Maradona Bradman Tendulkar, were selfish. And it helped their teams that they chased personal glory within the context of the team.

Sports is all about ego. Survival. Testing Personal limits.

All great sportsmen are selfish.

Selfishness is good.
well, no. In this context the definition of selfishness is self service at the expense of the team. Making a lot of runs all the time for your personal score and your team winning as a result is what you're talking about, which is irrelevant. Here, selfishness directly means sacrificing your teams results, eg, Dhoni batting slowly for his average and the team losing, or Lara not declaring so he can make 400 and his team drawing a match that they should have won as a result.
 

bagapath

International Captain
well, no. In this context the definition of selfishness is self service at the expense of the team. Making a lot of runs all the time for your personal score and your team winning as a result is what you're talking about, which is irrelevant. Here, selfishness directly means sacrificing your teams results, eg, Dhoni batting slowly for his average and the team losing, or Lara not declaring so he can make 400 and his team drawing a match that they should have won as a result.
I don’t know if Dhoni bats for his average. I truly don’t.

For a once great cricketing nation deprived of simple pleasures Lara’s 400 was something they could celebrate and that could inspire the next generation (it probably did, we don’t know) of West Indians: also it ensured that his team wouldn’t lose the test which was a big deal for that bunch.

Even if we know for sure that Dhoni bats for his average and a once in a century batting achievement is less important to a cricketing culture than a shot at winning a match with a weak bowling attack... I don’t know if Tendulkar hurt his team’s chances in pursuit of personal glory. His single minded occupation of scoring runs was comparable to Hadlee’s relentless search for bowling records. Both served their teams as generously as Richards and Warne served theirs. Don’t know why trying to maximise one’s own gifts is bad for the team...
 

bagapath

International Captain
Individuality is good. Selfishness is bad.

A batsman ignoring the falling wickets at the other end and staying not out is good for the team. The openers carrying their bat always give more respectability to the total. They are selfish in that they do not pay attention to the troubles of other batters - bad wicket, bad umpiring, supreme bowling. They don’t pay attention to any of that. Instead they bat bat and bat. And they help the team with their selfishness
 

bagapath

International Captain
hotheads like Afridi or Kapil or Botham... or even Sehwag or Jayasurya... could frustrate you with their selfish stroke play that gets them out at crucial times and causes more headache for the team... but it is the same selfishness that makes them blossom on their day... 149 at Leeds was a selfish knock... just pure personal fun...but that helped the team... selfish sportsmen like them who want the best for themselves eventually produce the best for their teams as well..

Thomas Edison and Isaac Newton were supposed to be very selfish pricks. And the world has benefitted from that quality of theirs.
 

bagapath

International Captain
The only completely selfless cricketer who achieved greatness for himself and his team with his unadulterated honesty was the legendary Allan Border.

That is just fanboy talk.

Ignore
 

Burgey

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The only completely selfless cricketer who achieved greatness for himself and his team with his unadulterated honesty was the legendary Allan Border.

And that is just plain fact.

Respect
Ne’er a truer word posted on CW mate. Wonderful stuff.
 

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