*Official* India Tour of New Zealand 2019

[Neil Young]

the "bat deep at the expense of real bowling" strategy really paid off today, we should try it at the world cup

The batsmen still have to do their job.

 

[Athlai]

At least there was a game this series where halfway through the second innings it wasnt a foregone conclusion

 

[Neil Young]

Then Astle should have been higher on the priority list than Munro, ffs.

Yeah, this. 10 overs from Munro made no sense at all.

 

[thierry henry]

True but sometimes you should just know when to take a guy off. And not the first time it's happened - KW sneaks in two Munro overs, gets all excited about the fifth bowler quota filling up and persists beyond necessary. Boult/Henry should have been back way earlier if the idea was to restrict India. If the idea was to explore WC options, Astle should've bowled.

Totally agree, although in this case he could have bowled Munro for 9 overs, and if Boult takes the catch off Rayudu it’s a superb spell

 

[Athlai]

the "bat deep at the expense of real bowling" strategy really paid off today, we should try it at the world cup

Our genuine bowlers were the ones to go at sixes and sevens today and our lower order almost won the game after the top order choked.

 

[Flem274*]

i don't know how anyone could watch this game and think anything other than the pressure release valve bowlers coming on at 18/4 allowed india to score the runs they did, which gave them a par score on a tricky surface.

we should have been chasing 150 but no we must copy england

it's not like 6-9 proved their worth either

 

[vandem]

the "bat deep at the expense of real bowling" strategy really paid off today, we should try it at the world cup

Not convinced. I think a NZ side with 4 specialist bowlers is better than stacking up the all-rounders. While not having the 4th specialist bowler was the winning of the game today (Shankar's 45 was part of the key partnership of the game), some dumb batting cost NZ the game. The India side look more like World Cup winners with 4 specialist bowlers, not 3.

 

[Moss]

Our genuine bowlers were the ones to go at sixes and sevens today and our lower order almost won the game after the top order choked.

I hear you, but they went at sixes at sevens at the death because India were allowed to have something of a platform by batting through overs and overs of Munro/Neesham/CdG.

 

[harsh.ag]

True but sometimes you should just know when to take a guy off. And not the first time it's happened - KW sneaks in two Munro overs, gets all excited about the fifth bowler quota filling up and persists beyond necessary. Boult/Henry should have been back way earlier if the idea was to restrict India. If the idea was to explore WC options, Astle should've bowled.

Tbf KW got Boult back in the 36th over or so and Henry had a crack at around the 40th over mark too.

Good game today. Pandya and Jadhav are crucial to this Indian team's balance.

NZ need Rosco to be better.

 

[Athlai]

i don't know how anyone could watch this game and think anything other than the pressure release valve bowlers coming on at 18/4 allowed india to score the runs they did, which gave them a par score on a tricky surface.

we should have been chasing 150 but no we must copy england

it's not like 6-9 proved their worth either

We had Tastle and Santner. Kane choosing to bowl Munro and Neesham was his call.

 

[Athlai]

I hear you, but they went at sixes at sevens at the death because India were allowed to have something of a platform by batting through overs and overs of Munro/Neesham/CdG.

Yeah im a subscriber to give those bloke ten overs, no idea why they were so over bowled. Kane hates Tastle i suspect.

 

[Flem274*]

Our genuine bowlers were the ones to go at sixes and sevens today and our lower order almost won the game after the top order choked.

The batsmen still have to do their job.

yea im gonna agree to disagree because im not sure we're watching the same game and i cbf arguing with people who refuse to see the obvious

 

[harsh.ag]

i don't know how anyone could watch this game and think anything other than the pressure release valve bowlers coming on at 18/4 allowed india to score the runs they did, which gave them a par score on a tricky surface.

we should have been chasing 150 but no we must copy england

it's not like 6-9 proved their worth either

It's not like Rayudu and Jadhav are mugs though. Was a proper partnership.

On a related note, I have no idea what India are doing with the Vijay Shankar experiment. He doesn't belong anywhere near the side, even as a backup for Hardik Pandya.

 

[Neil Young]

yea im gonna agree to disagree because im not sure we're watching the same game and i cbf arguing with people who refuse to see the obvious

Sorry for disagreeing with you, pal.

 

[Moss]

yea im gonna agree to disagree because im not sure we're watching the same game and i cbf arguing with people who refuse to see the obvious

Definitely agree with your questioning the captaincy, hopefully Kane learns from that,

But what should be more of a concern is the way NZ went about chasing a gettable total against a good bowling unit, most of those wickets were either caving in under pressure or just utter gifts against the run of play.

 

[vandem]

On a related note, I have no idea what India are doing with the Vijay Shankar experiment. He doesn't belong anywhere near the side, even as a backup for Hardik Pandya.

So what do India do when / if Pandya is injured? Kumar batting #7 seems a little high. Jadeja at #7, and play a 3rd specialist seamer and only 1 of Chahal / Yadav?

 

[Flem274*]

Sorry for disagreeing with you, pal.

haha yeah fair my comment came off a bit too snarky

ive argued with athlai too much on this topic and as we all know #athlaisucks

 

[thierry henry]

So y’all reckon Santner and Tastle were gonna knock over the Indian middle order today? I don’t see it

 

[Neil Young]

haha yeah fair my comment came off a bit too snarky

ive argued with athlai too much on this topic and as we all know #athlaisucks

Yeah, I'm not sure where I stand tbh. My instinct is to bat to 8 but maybe, as you say, the evidence today was to the contrary and the lack of frontline bowlers cost us.

But we do need the batsmen to do their jobs, however deep we bat.

 

[Mike5181]

jeez...Munro was bowling because he bowled 8 overs for 25 while everyone else was poor and Santner got picked off on a seemingly seam-friendly surface

I can understand thinking Astle should have got more of a bowl but I really think Munro was just bowling because it was working on the day.

You've got to have more faith in your specialists to pull it back. Considering Munro's back on the bench once Guptill's back, what's going to happen in the World Cup if Santner/Astle go for runs in their first few? You are going to have to bowl them, and they'll just have less experience in those situations.