*Official* India Tour of New Zealand 2019

[NZTailender]

he averages just under 30 at a solid strike rate, and im pretty sure he played at 7 against england. he'll be fine.

in an absolutely perfect world we'd have him at #8 but our options aren't perfect and you need your 5th bowler to be good every game. if you need your #8 every game you suck and aren't going to win the world cup regardless of how deep you bat.

averages 14 at 7 and 37 at 8 with 2 fifties. Simply put, I think he feels the pressure a bit more at 7.

 

[thierry henry]

Mixture of Santner/Neesham with Henry and Boult to finish.

Still pretty yuck isn’t it

 

[Flem274*]

Appreciate the dilemma, but Santner isn't a 7, but is a very useful 8. If we had a Shane Watson it would solve the issue.

I'd prefer a

Guptill
CDG 5
KW 7
Boss
Latham +
Nicholls
Neesham 6
Santner 4
Astle (or Milne if seam-friendly) 3
Ferguson 2
Boult 1

I'm willing to concede 10 overs between CDG, Neesham & KW is a little risky, but I'd take it at the cost of batting deep like the world's no.1 side England do.

england aren't going to win the world cup and "a little risky" is understating it.

look at this game. look at this trash we served up. if we expect to trundle up with 10 overs from neesham, colin and whoever we're done

 

[thierry henry]

Feels like India scoring way more than what the commentators thought was a best-case scenario has been inevitable for ages

 

[Flem274*]

averages 14 at 7 and 37 at 8 with 2 fifties. Simply put, I think he feels the pressure a bit more at 7.

that's a bit annoying but i'd still rather put him at 7 and back him rather than cobble together overs from guys who will either be freely milked or smashed

 

[NZTailender]

Still pretty yuck isn’t it

would've preferred Ferguson/Santner/Henry/Boult tbh.

 

[NZTailender]

Boult makes up for his drop kind of.


also


our fielding has been just as bad as our death bowling today.

 

[Zinzan]

england aren't going to win the world cup and "a little risky" is understating it.

look at this game. look at this trash we served up. if we expect to trundle up with 10 overs from neesham, colin and whoever we're done

As I said earlier, whether you have a bowling heavy-side or not, it's not at all uncommon for batting sides to make a respectable score after being 4-5 down early when the new ball did a little. Batting does become easier on these types of surfaces after 15-20 over as it clearly has today. Not saying more specialised bowlers wouldn't have been more challenging that Munro & CDG, but I doubt it'd have made that much difference today. Maybe 10-15 runs which I think that extra batsmen is worth if we find ourselves 4-5 down with the bat early doors.

 

[NZTailender]

that's thigh height imho

 

[OverratedSanity]

This is exactly why Pandya is essential for this team. Excellent knock.

 

[Flem274*]

As I said earlier, whether you have a bowling heavy-side or not, it's not at all uncommon for batting sides to make a respectable score after being 4-5 down early when the new ball did a little. Batting does become easier on these types of surfaces after 15-20 over as it clearly has today. Not saying more specialised bowlers wouldn't have been more challenging that Munro & CDG, but I doubt it'd have made that much difference today. Maybe 10-15 runs which I think that extra batsmen is worth if we find ourselves 4-5 down with the bat early doors.

we are clearly watching different games

 

[vcs]

Pandya is one hell of a ball-striker. Could be an amazing cricketer if he gets his attitude right and works a bit on the rough edges.

Great catch by Boult. Would have gladly taken 250 at 18/4.

 

[vandem]

I feel for Tastle. He's been given a raw deal today imho

Disagree. If we play a leggie they are going to be the 2nd spinner, as Santner will be picked, and we are NOT going to pick 5 specialist bowlers, so need to squeeze 10 overs from de Grandhomme + Neesham + Munro which will mostly be before over 40. So if picking 2 spinners, one will be doing some bowling from over 40+, today it was Astle's turn.

What was a little strange today was Munro taking overs away from Santner, but this didn't change Astle's role.

 

[thierry henry]

I mean, his technique might be flawed but at some point people may have to admit the bloke averaging 50 can bat

I haven’t really followed his ODI career closely. All I can say is during this series he has looked very poor, in the sense that he should have been out cheaply but had a lot of good luck. That’s not just technique, I’m referring to pure luck in between general sloppy batting when he wasn’t giving chances.

I don’t have anything against the guy or a strong opinion on him outside this series

 

[cnerd123]

Nice to see guys like Rayudu, Pandya, Kedar, and Karthik do the job in the middle order in the last couple of tours. Bodes really well for the WC. Pandya is such a gun. Vijay Shankar has been alright too, not against him getting a proper run in the team

Disappointed Gill hasn't come off in these two games. Probably won't see anymore of him till after the WC now.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

I'm certain that this allrounder stacking is more a matter of giving them a chance to state their case rather than this being our actual team balance for the world cup. If Boult, Henry, Ferguson, Santner isn't our core bowling lineup then we're idiots.

 

[Zinzan]

we are clearly watching different games

Only because you seem to be assuming another bowler would have taken 2-3 wickets & only gone for 35 runs off their 10 in the middle overs once the shine was off the ball and the pitch flattened out. Considering that today between Munro, CGD & Neesham, they went for 1-113 off 22 overs @ 5.1. Even if your specialist bowler did go for only 35 off their 10 (which is unlikely), it would have been 15 runs difference.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

you do

guptill
nicholls
kane
taylor
latham (wk)
neesham or cdg
santner
sodhi or astle
henry/southee/milne
ferguson
boult

Thats my side ... and I’d take Neesham and Henry in the bracketed spots.

Great to see Henry get a good return today. Saw an article today saying he was likely to miss out on a WC squad spot ... I think that’s ridiculous if true. Boult seems to go a lot better with him at the other end, too. But perhaps the article was a bit of extra motivation as well.

 

[thierry henry]

would've preferred Ferguson/Santner/Henry/Boult tbh.

Absolutely

I’ll stop wanking on about Munro, but I fully understood him getting overs ahead of the other options today because he just outbowled them. The pitch seemed to favour him bowling seam up more than it favoured spin. I think KW realised two spinners was a mistake.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Only because you seem to be assuming another bowler would have taken 2-3 wickets & only gone for 35 runs off their 10 in the middle overs once the shine was off the ball and the pitch flattened out. Considering that today between Munro, CGD & Neesham, they went for 1-113 off 22 overs @ 5.1. Even if they did go for only 35 off their 10 (which is unlikely), it would have been 15 runs difference.

Well of course we don't know what would've happened for sure, but we can say that if we had ferguson following up boult and henry the probability of another couple of quick wickets increases significantly, and cricket is a game of probabilities.