Victor Ian
International Coach
I'm. Guessing health and safety stepped in. Pity.
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*Official* India Tour of Australia 2018/19
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quincywagstaff
International Debutant
It comes across as a bit of an ego trip for the umps; why not at the very least have the match referee in on the readings and make the readings public so during the match we can see how close it's getting to unviable conditions.
Spikey
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nah it's like 10 years at this point i think
Victor Ian
International Coach
1st October, 2010.
Umpires won't offer light to batsmen | Cricket | ESPNcricinfo
Umpires won't offer light to batsmen | Cricket | ESPNcricinfo
Victor Ian
International Coach
Also not health and safety, but to stop batting teams making unfair use of the rules, though I'm not sure how. Their example still required bad light to be offered so seemed fair enough.
Victor Ian
International Coach
I find the part where the umpire decides the light and they use that as a reference for the rest of the game perplexing. Isn't light light? Why would their not be a universal number used always.
Victor Ian
International Coach
Just Sydney. They have no class.
Borges
International Regular
If Australia became England, they would have won the series 3-1. With Cummins emulating Curran's heroics.
cnerd123
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Is determining visibility an exact science? How accurate are light meters w/regards to determining whether or not humans can see a ball clearly?
I actually got one of those umpire's light meters recently. Have yet to play around with it tho. Maybe I'll feedback on my experiences with it once I do.
Victor Ian
International Coach
I'm not quite sure about visibility. That would be affected by cloud scattering of light. But that would change so using one number seems odd. Perhaps angle of sun overhead matter and that would be constant through a game but change at different games. Test it out. Let us know.
That just got me wondering... Are all grounds oriented a similar way, pitch runs north south so afternoon sun is not in batsman eyes, and maybe summer sun arc is behind the batsman? I'd guess so.
cnerd123
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The umpires decide, without the meter, whether or not light is good.
Therefore the only purpose the meter serves is to benchmark the point at which light was deemed 'bad' by the umpires. And so if the umpires feel the light is better, and the meter shows this, they can go on. If the umpires feel the light is better but the meter disagrees, then they can't.
As per the playing conditions:
I guess they do this as a way to take human error out of the equation, or to keep captains/boards/broadcasters satisfied that the umpires aren't inconsistently deciding whether or not the light is good.
Good question about pitches. Would make sense to orientate pitches north-south right? But I doubt that much thought has gone into it. For sure we must have some grounds around the world that don't do this. But maybe those grounds don't get International status for that reason...
Senile Sentry
International Debutant
What a ****** decision to take light short changed the crowd on a Sunday really.
If anything they should offer free admission tomorrow.
Well done India. Have dominated thoroughly and completely and hopefully make it 3 - 1 tomorrow.
If anything they should offer free admission tomorrow.
Well done India. Have dominated thoroughly and completely and hopefully make it 3 - 1 tomorrow.
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
So what is the chance of India taking 10 wickets tomorrow? Both innings have lasted quite long on this surface. 3-1 will be nice but doesn't look like pitch has deteriorated enough to get 10 wickets in about 2 sessions (if last session again gets lost to bad light).
srbhkshk
International Captain
IMO we could probably win this the same way we won the last test of the Ind - Eng in India, Australia should be mentally checked out by now - and it just takes a couple quick wicket to set the panic in.
cnerd123
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Wouldn't even be panic - they just CBF and will be waiting for the end of the day to go home.
Personally I think they'll bat out the day safely for a slight moral victory and the batsmen will retain their spots for SL on the basis of it.
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
But then there is Cummins down the order.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Get him some IPL cash today evening.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
With regards to the light thing.
I think the subjective part of it is so that of one ground "feels darker" than another due to more trees or whatnot you can go off sooner on that ground than on a "lighter feel" ground. Human perceptions of light is extremely subject to many factors so using a light meter and saying "whenever we get to XYZ reading it's too dark" might fell really strange on some grounds but not on others.
I think the subjective part of it is so that of one ground "feels darker" than another due to more trees or whatnot you can go off sooner on that ground than on a "lighter feel" ground. Human perceptions of light is extremely subject to many factors so using a light meter and saying "whenever we get to XYZ reading it's too dark" might fell really strange on some grounds but not on others.
Senile Sentry
International Debutant
India should win if they get full 90 overs