*Official* India Tour of Australia 2018/19

[Burgey]

Ashwin yes, Jadeja no.

I suppose the one thing he has over both of them is he actually doesn’t get dropped like he used to and they still do.

 

[Burgey]

What OS said above ^ Also Lyon's overall record in SC conditions is average at best.

You haven’t watched him bowl in the last two years then mate. He’s a better bowler than either of those two blokes anywhere these days.

Fmd they’re meant to be ranked one and two in the world and they take it in turns to get dropped.

 

[Ausage]

As much as the pitch has been compared to a corpse, resolute batting, a large slice of luck for the Indians and 4 dropped catches have made it look worse than it is imo.

 

[Zinzan]

You haven’t watched him bowl in the last two years then mate. He’s a better bowler than either of those two blokes anywhere these days.

Fmd they’re meant to be ranked one and two in the world and they take it in turns to get dropped.

I have watched, and he's been consistently good in Australia & did have a brilliant 2017, I'll give him that, but then averaged 34 this year, which is decent without being great.

Edit: Meanwhile Jadeja is averaging 21 in 2018, and actually had better 2016,2017 & 2018 than Lyon.

Ashwin has really declined in the last 2 years though, after almost looking unplayable in 2016.

 

[Spikey]

siddle's drop is right up there with the great boxing day moments

 

[Burgey]

I’d put it ahead of Warne’s 700th as the best thing a Victorian has ever done on Boxing Day tbh.

 

[Zinzan]

Lol, you mean to tell me Siddle was on as a sub and grassed one? That would have been funny to see.

 

[Prince EWS]

Lol, you mean to tell me Siddle was on as a sub and grassed one? That would have been funny to see.

He was only on for one over too, and it was an absolute sitter that he dropped. It was hilarious. I still laugh whenever I think about it.

 

[Burgey]

I have watched, and he's been consistently good in Australia & did have a brilliant 2017, I'll give him that, but then averaged 34 this year, which is decent without being great.

Edit: Meanwhile Jadeja is averaging 21 in 2018, and actually had better 2016,2017 & 2018 than Lyon.

Ashwin has really declined in the last 2 years though, after almost looking unplayable in 2016.

I suspect the basis of your analysis is terribly flawed, given one bloke blows left arm darts on decks which help him rag them and the other spends his time bowling over here where finger spinners come to die.

I mean, if you put Starc in conditions akin to that Perth pitch from last week and throw Philander on UAE pancakes, will you rate Starc ahead of Fat Vern?

 

[Burgey]

Lol, you mean to tell me Siddle was on as a sub and grassed one? That would have been funny to see.

It was comedy gold tbh. Definitely the moment of the day. You must watch it.

 

[OverratedSanity]

You haven’t watched him bowl in the last two years then mate. He’s a better bowler than either of those two blokes anywhere these days.

Fmd they’re meant to be ranked one and two in the world and they take it in turns to get dropped.

Tbf, they usually get dropped for each other. Or because of the Indian selectors being dumb.

I do agree lyon's a better bowler though. He's been almost as effective as Jadeja and Ashwin in the subcontinent recently while also performing a much better role in less friendly conditions. I didn't rate him much before he adjusted his bowling to Asian conditions, which isn't an easy thing to do. Bloke was a liability back in 2014 when he toured Asia, this time around the improvement he showed was massive.

 

[Zinzan]

I suspect the basis of your analysis is terribly flawed, given one bloke blows left arm darts on decks which help him rag them and the other spends his time bowling over here where finger spinners come to die.

I mean, if you put Starc in conditions akin to that Perth pitch from last week and throw Philander on UAE pancakes, will you rate Starc ahead of Fat Vern?

Lyon has been excellent on Australia decks for a long time now, & I did say that... without being all that great anywhere else.

 

[Burgey]

Fair enough.

More importantly, someone upload the Siddle drop for Zinners

 

[Zinzan]

Good man, it's not on youtube yet.

 

[Top_Cat]

Tbf, they usually get dropped for each other. Or because of the Indian selectors being dumb.

I do agree lyon's a better bowler though. He's been almost as effective as Jadeja and Ashwin in the subcontinent recently while also performing a much better role in less friendly conditions. I didn't rate him much before he adjusted his bowling to Asian conditions, which isn't an easy thing to do. Bloke was a liability back in 2014 when he toured Asia, this time around the improvement he showed was massive.

When compared to the home spinners, sure. Was still the best choice for Aussie spinner.

 

[Top_Cat]

I mean, I love a good declaration as much as the next Chappell but I gotta ask, why.

 

[Prince EWS]

Good man, it's not on youtube yet.

https://twitter.com/cricketcomau/st...p-video-travis-head/qlmwynq5lsgi1frcn8lvv8w75

 

[Zinzan]

https://twitter.com/cricketcomau/st...p-video-travis-head/qlmwynq5lsgi1frcn8lvv8w75

Cheers mate, but doesn't appear to play for me probably due to my being outside of Aust. I'll try via VPN later on.

 

[trundler]

Shaheen getting some rhythm. Beautiful lines.

 

[GotSpin]

Probably one of the worst drops I’ve seen at an international level